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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ashrym" data-source="post: 6849971" data-attributes="member: 6750235">You are mistaken.  Medium armor is a good choice for a lore bard who isn't planning on picking it up through multi-classing.  It's more for the shield than the armor because the character either takes disadvantage on stealth or only gains one point of AC, and still has the same investment in DEX.  Other medium armors cost more than the character's starting wealth and levels are gained quickly.  A chain shirt capped at 15 AC (because of DEX bonus limit) vs studded leather and a +3 DEX bonus (no cap and easily achievable on point buy) is still 15 AC.Stating those are low hp and AC didn't demonstrate what gives high hp or AC.  There are only three d10 classes and one d12 class.  Everyone else has the same hit points as the bard or less.  10 hp is not low; it's normal.  It's what one would expect of every rogue,  monk, or cleric out there.  Half the classes use d8 because it's typical instead high or low.  The difference in a few slightly higher hit points (12 hp instead of 10 hp) is very slim.  There are only 2 classes with heavy armor proficiency and they might buy chain mail for AC 16.  AC of 15, 14 on the lower side, isn't going to be different than AC of 14, 15, or 16 from other characters.You haven't established a higher average some how.There's no need to abuse dissonant whispers.  The all bard party has a lot of sleep spells.  Damage isn't bad because TWF short swords would be 2d6+DEX mod, which is being taken for AC anyway.  That puts the bards in place of the wizard and cleric ahead on standard damage, and similar to other characters of that level.  The groups is gaining ground on the low end even as they lose ground on the higher end.  I think the group takes a hit on damage overall and works pretty well regardless because of the spell and skill versatility.</blockquote>

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