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Soooo, the melee ranger?
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<blockquote data-quote="Jester David" data-source="post: 6663009" data-attributes="member: 37579"><p>The big difference in damage likely comes from the feats, and the fact there's no -5/+10 feat for two-weapon fighting or single-handed weapons. That makes a HUGE difference in the fighter as well. That hits the ranger hard, but it's unfair to call out the ranger as weaker because of that.</p><p>However, the offset in hits isn't shown in this example since there are no misses, skewing the average damage. Their damage should be 25% lower as a result. </p><p></p><p>Accuracy is actually pretty huge and ignoring it invalidates much of these results. For example, the two-weapon ranger has a higher chance of doing some damage each round rather than none (that damage being a not insignificant 2d8+1d6+5).</p><p></p><p>Another discrepancy is <em>hunter's mark</em>, which lasts for as long as you have concentration, so it's the entire fight. And possibly the next fight and the fight after that. Once the fighter has used their tricks in a single round they're just swinging. And, as mentioned, the ranger's higher level output is focused on multiple creatures. So it's an in-optimal situation for them.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Jester David, post: 6663009, member: 37579"] The big difference in damage likely comes from the feats, and the fact there's no -5/+10 feat for two-weapon fighting or single-handed weapons. That makes a HUGE difference in the fighter as well. That hits the ranger hard, but it's unfair to call out the ranger as weaker because of that. However, the offset in hits isn't shown in this example since there are no misses, skewing the average damage. Their damage should be 25% lower as a result. Accuracy is actually pretty huge and ignoring it invalidates much of these results. For example, the two-weapon ranger has a higher chance of doing some damage each round rather than none (that damage being a not insignificant 2d8+1d6+5). Another discrepancy is [I]hunter's mark[/I], which lasts for as long as you have concentration, so it's the entire fight. And possibly the next fight and the fight after that. Once the fighter has used their tricks in a single round they're just swinging. And, as mentioned, the ranger's higher level output is focused on multiple creatures. So it's an in-optimal situation for them. [/QUOTE]
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