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<blockquote data-quote="Tilla the Hun (work)" data-source="post: 1138749" data-attributes="member: 14214"><p>And what stops a wizard from taking this metamagic feat? Or a sorc from taking the arcane preparation feat? Etc.?</p><p></p><p>As feats, I think these abilities break your mage class. If you made them exclusive to the mage class aka class abilities, that might help to fix them some.</p><p></p><p>Other than that - I notice you haven't yet (or will you?) incorporate any of the suggestions from the other thread?</p><p></p><p></p><p>Personally, after much reflection, and re-reading this class again (even more closely) I've come to the following conclusion -</p><p></p><p>Let Sorc and Wiz stand as is. Do not create a whole new class, just allow the following feats, and assign appropriate ones to the sorc and wiz classes as startup feats. These will allow a wizard or sorc to cross over to sorc abilities, without overbalancing. A wizard who loses their spell book essentially becomes a slightly deficient sorceror, or a sorceror who wishes can start preparing spells ahead of time with the proper feats.</p><p></p><p></p><p>SPELL MASTERY [Metamagic]</p><p>Benefit: You can prepare a number of spells without your spell book as determined by the table on 3-17 on page 49 of the PHB as though you were a second level sorceror. This number cannot exceed the number of spells you are allowed to cast per day.</p><p></p><p>Prerequisite: You must be able to cast third level arcane spells as a wizard. </p><p></p><p>Special: You can take this feat multiple times. It’s effects do not stack. Each time you take this feat, increase the level of sorceror you reference on table 3-17 by two. Thus, the second time you take this feat, you would look under level 4 sorcerors spells known to determine the number of spells at each level you can prepare without a spell book. </p><p></p><p>Normal: All arcane spellcasters automatically master the Read Magic cantrip.</p><p></p><p></p><p>SPONTANEOUS CASTING [Metamagic]</p><p>Provided that you have deliberately not filled a spell slot of your spells per day of a given level with a prepared spell, you can spontaneously cast a spell of that level or lower that you have mastered as per the spell mastery feat. Note that you cannot prepare a spell, cast that spell, then use that spell slot to spontaneously cast.</p><p></p><p>Prerequisite: You must have taken the metamagic feat Spell Mastery at least once before you can take this feat.</p><p></p><p>Benefit: You gain the ability to spontaneously cast spells of a given level if you have not prepared spells of that level on a one for one basis. You also gain bonus spell slots in accordance with your charisma bonus, if any, as though you were a sorceror. These bonus slots can only be used to spontaneously cast spells.</p><p></p><p>Special: You need a Charisma score of 10 + the spell’s level in order to spontaneously cast a spell. The Difficulty Class for a saving throw against a mage’s spontaneously cast spell is 10 + the spell level + the mage’s Charisma modifier.</p><p></p><p></p><p>IMPROVED SPONTANEOUS CASTING [Metamagic]</p><p>You can cast a mastered spell by using a spell slot containing a prepared spell.</p><p></p><p>Prerequisite: Spontaneous Casting, Caster Level 5th</p><p></p><p>Benefit: As per Spontaneous Casting, except that you can use a spell slot containing a prepared spell. Bonus spell slots do not stack and can still only be used for spontaneous casting.</p><p></p><p>ARCANE PREPARATION [Metamagic]</p><p>You can prepare an arcane spell ahead of time.</p><p></p><p>Prerequisite: You must have either Arcane Transcription or Spell Mastery as well as the ability to spontaneously cast arcane spells before you can select this feat.</p><p></p><p>Benefit: You can prepare spells each day as though you were a wizard. You may also gain bonus spells per day due to a high intelligence as though you were a wizard. These bonus spells per day can only be used to cast prepared spells. You need an Intelligence score of 10 + the spell’s level in order to cast a prepared spell. The Difficulty Class for a saving throw against a prepared spell is 10 + the spell level + the caster's Intelligence modifier.</p><p></p><p>ARCANE TRANSCRIPTION [Metamagic]</p><p>You can record spells in a spell book, and prepare the spells from the spellbook.</p><p></p><p>Prerequisite: You must have the arcane bonus feat Arcane Preparation before you can take this feat.</p><p>Benefit: You can add new spells to your spell books and prepare spells from your spellbook.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Tilla the Hun (work), post: 1138749, member: 14214"] And what stops a wizard from taking this metamagic feat? Or a sorc from taking the arcane preparation feat? Etc.? As feats, I think these abilities break your mage class. If you made them exclusive to the mage class aka class abilities, that might help to fix them some. Other than that - I notice you haven't yet (or will you?) incorporate any of the suggestions from the other thread? Personally, after much reflection, and re-reading this class again (even more closely) I've come to the following conclusion - Let Sorc and Wiz stand as is. Do not create a whole new class, just allow the following feats, and assign appropriate ones to the sorc and wiz classes as startup feats. These will allow a wizard or sorc to cross over to sorc abilities, without overbalancing. A wizard who loses their spell book essentially becomes a slightly deficient sorceror, or a sorceror who wishes can start preparing spells ahead of time with the proper feats. SPELL MASTERY [Metamagic] Benefit: You can prepare a number of spells without your spell book as determined by the table on 3-17 on page 49 of the PHB as though you were a second level sorceror. This number cannot exceed the number of spells you are allowed to cast per day. Prerequisite: You must be able to cast third level arcane spells as a wizard. Special: You can take this feat multiple times. It’s effects do not stack. Each time you take this feat, increase the level of sorceror you reference on table 3-17 by two. Thus, the second time you take this feat, you would look under level 4 sorcerors spells known to determine the number of spells at each level you can prepare without a spell book. Normal: All arcane spellcasters automatically master the Read Magic cantrip. SPONTANEOUS CASTING [Metamagic] Provided that you have deliberately not filled a spell slot of your spells per day of a given level with a prepared spell, you can spontaneously cast a spell of that level or lower that you have mastered as per the spell mastery feat. Note that you cannot prepare a spell, cast that spell, then use that spell slot to spontaneously cast. Prerequisite: You must have taken the metamagic feat Spell Mastery at least once before you can take this feat. Benefit: You gain the ability to spontaneously cast spells of a given level if you have not prepared spells of that level on a one for one basis. You also gain bonus spell slots in accordance with your charisma bonus, if any, as though you were a sorceror. These bonus slots can only be used to spontaneously cast spells. Special: You need a Charisma score of 10 + the spell’s level in order to spontaneously cast a spell. The Difficulty Class for a saving throw against a mage’s spontaneously cast spell is 10 + the spell level + the mage’s Charisma modifier. IMPROVED SPONTANEOUS CASTING [Metamagic] You can cast a mastered spell by using a spell slot containing a prepared spell. Prerequisite: Spontaneous Casting, Caster Level 5th Benefit: As per Spontaneous Casting, except that you can use a spell slot containing a prepared spell. Bonus spell slots do not stack and can still only be used for spontaneous casting. ARCANE PREPARATION [Metamagic] You can prepare an arcane spell ahead of time. Prerequisite: You must have either Arcane Transcription or Spell Mastery as well as the ability to spontaneously cast arcane spells before you can select this feat. Benefit: You can prepare spells each day as though you were a wizard. You may also gain bonus spells per day due to a high intelligence as though you were a wizard. These bonus spells per day can only be used to cast prepared spells. You need an Intelligence score of 10 + the spell’s level in order to cast a prepared spell. The Difficulty Class for a saving throw against a prepared spell is 10 + the spell level + the caster's Intelligence modifier. ARCANE TRANSCRIPTION [Metamagic] You can record spells in a spell book, and prepare the spells from the spellbook. Prerequisite: You must have the arcane bonus feat Arcane Preparation before you can take this feat. Benefit: You can add new spells to your spell books and prepare spells from your spellbook. [/QUOTE]
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