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<blockquote data-quote="Macbrea" data-source="post: 184380" data-attributes="member: 1517">I think your math is off slightly.&nbsp; The average DC for 10 + 8d4 should be&nbsp;&nbsp; 8 time 2.5 or 20 + 10 or DC 30.&nbsp; Now, A 11th level person with 14 ranks in concentration and a 20 con has a +19 concentration check.&nbsp; This person will fail 55% of the time. Granted he could have spent a feat on Skill focus concentration to reduce that to failing 45% of the time but that is a huge expenditure of skill points. As the Melf's acid arrow is a conjuration spell that summon's an arrow that deals 2d4 acid each round for its duration. Then the effect's should stack. If the spell just did 2d4 damage each round they would not.&nbsp; As damage dice do not stack.&nbsp; Being an item that deals damage instead of a spell that does the continuous damage.&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; People don't seem to have as much of a problem grasping the concept of a Sorceror conjuring&nbsp; a Slaadi up that hits for damage the first round then conjuring up another the next round that pounds on the same opponent.&nbsp; If a person wanted to be anal retentive about it they could claim that they are already under the effect of one summons monster spell and therefor cannot be effected by another.&nbsp; &nbsp; Just some random thoughts,</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Macbrea, post: 184380, member: 1517"] I think your math is off slightly. The average DC for 10 + 8d4 should be 8 time 2.5 or 20 + 10 or DC 30. Now, A 11th level person with 14 ranks in concentration and a 20 con has a +19 concentration check. This person will fail 55% of the time. Granted he could have spent a feat on Skill focus concentration to reduce that to failing 45% of the time but that is a huge expenditure of skill points. As the Melf's acid arrow is a conjuration spell that summon's an arrow that deals 2d4 acid each round for its duration. Then the effect's should stack. If the spell just did 2d4 damage each round they would not. As damage dice do not stack. Being an item that deals damage instead of a spell that does the continuous damage. People don't seem to have as much of a problem grasping the concept of a Sorceror conjuring a Slaadi up that hits for damage the first round then conjuring up another the next round that pounds on the same opponent. If a person wanted to be anal retentive about it they could claim that they are already under the effect of one summons monster spell and therefor cannot be effected by another. Just some random thoughts, [/QUOTE]

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