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Message: <blockquote data-quote="bitbug" data-source="post: 184878" data-attributes="member: 4236">My spell list; comments encouragedHere's my Sorceror's spell list (or will be, ifhe gets to 20th level). It's also pretty min-maxed. Explanations follow the list; comments are encouraged.0Arcane MarkDetect PoisonDetect MagicLightDisrupt UndeadMage HandPrestidigitationRay of FrostFlare1Magic MissileMage ArmorIdentifyDetect Secret DoorsReduce2GlitterdustBlindnessMirror ImageAlter SelfDarkvision3FlyHasteLightning BoltProtection from Elements4Polymorph OtherConfusionImproved InvisibilityEnervation5Wall of ForceFeeblemindPrying EyesHold Monster6Greater DispellingEyebiteDisintegrate7Limited WithMass InvisibilityTeleport without Error8SymbolPolymorph Any ObjectMind Blank9ShapechangeGateMordenkainen's DisjunctionFeatsChain SpellIdeal with ranged utility spells or targeted spells with no saving throw, like Haste, Enervation, and Greater Dispelling.Spell SelectionI tried to select spells that were generally useful, flexible in effect and/or save type, and scale with level. I didn't want too many attack spells. I could have chosen Horrid Wilting over Mind Blank, for example. HW is a great attack spell. I'd rather not get Held or Dominated; being useless or used against the party sucks.1stMage ArmorRedundant with bracers, but lasts forever and your party will thank you when it starts getting its butt kicked by incorporeals.IdentifyBetter than schlepping back to far away places to have somebody else do it, and it scales with level.Detect Secret DoorsAn often useful adventuring spell.ReduceDoesn't just weaken an opponent's Str; think bigger. It also reduces weapon size. Huge weapons deal out mondo damage. Plus you can Reduce the party and Teleport them.2ndGlitterdustI like this better than See Invisible. It lets others see said invisible targets and affects an area, plus bonus Blindness effect.Alter SelfCheap flight and water breathing.DarkvisionI like to see in the dark, and lasts a long time.3rdLightning BoltSlightly alterable shape makes it more flexible than Fireball.Dispel MagicI'll suffer the pain of waiting for Greater Dispelling. This isn't effective at high levels against spell casters, though the utility of Chained Dispel Magic at taking out wand and potion buffs in an enemy party shouldn't be discounted. In the end, there's just too many other good 3rd level spells.FlyTeleport is better for long-disance travel, and Fly might be too redundant with items. Still, a generally good spell. I'd listen to arguments for something else.4thPolymorph OtherEffectively an instant-death spell, plus has utility for helping out one's party in odd situations.Improved InvisibilityEnough said.EnervateSubtract 1d4 from target's attacks and saves? Sign me up. Add Chain, go to town.5thFeeblemindIdeal for taking out enemy spellcasters, plus one of the few spells whose utility increases against high-level opponents: they are more likely to have spell-like abilities and suffer -4 to save.Wall of ForceTactically useful at isolating enemies, plus defense.Hold MonsterNeeded single target spell for melees; party won't appreciate Confusion. Also effectively an instant-death spell.Prying EyesAn unusual choice. Number of eyes and duration scale, plus has tactical and informational uses.6thEyebiteFlexible effects and save type.DisintegrateNot just an instant-death spell. You can't escape Forcecage or Wall of Force with Finger of Death. I don't like the necessity of making an attack roll, but I'll live. [Smile]7thLimited WishWhat more need be said?Mass InvisibilityAll-party stealth.Teleport without ErrorNo mishaps or off-target 'ports. Note that with Teleport, you can arrive off-target or have mishaps even if you are looking directly at the target. That was enough for me, though I'd appreciate hearing countervailing arguments.8thMind BlankTotal defense to Hold, Dominate and Confusion, plus bonus anti-scrying capability.SymbolLots of flexibility, plus you can attack an area without harming your party.Polymorph Any ObjectGreat, fun spell, again more flexibility.9thShapechangeOffense, defense, and utility in one spell.GateUltimate summoning spell. Summon monsters with CRs that are effective. Summon X generally summons monsters that are too low CR relative to the party and its enemies (IMHO).Mordenkainen's DisjunctionKiller anti-magic spell. Somewhat worried this is too redundant with Greater Dispelling.</blockquote>

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