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<blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 7985904" data-attributes="member: 18"><p>I dunno. Post-Class Feature Variant they do. We didn't ever have a Ranger before that, because everyone avoided them like the plague, but the Class Feature Variants make them very solid, even exciting to play.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The best status effect for your enemies to have is dead, which is what Warlocks deliver in spades, with terrifying EB+AB+Hex blasting.</p><p></p><p>Hypnotic Pattern is available to all Arcane casters. Most of the time you can cast it without nailing your allies anyway, so you don't need Careful Spell. This is another good example of a niche situation being presented as a norm to try and make Sorcerer metamagic not look weak (and given how few metamagics Sorcerers have, and the other choices, many/most Sorcerers won't have Careful Spell, especially not at lower levels).</p><p></p><p>That's not a "killer combo" the way EB+AB+Hex is. Which y'know, literally kills people, and gets rolling at Level 1 or 2, depending on how vital you think AB is, and is used every single encounter. Instead starting at a dead minimum of 5th, when you can use it twice per adventuring day, rather than many rounds in every fight (you can't initially use Hex in every fight, admittedly, but it gets there). More importantly, Hypnotic Pattern isn't a Sorcerer-specific spell. So it's not even your "thing". That's just careful spell - so you can place it more carelessly - but that, in my experience, will rarely be necessary.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ruin Explorer, post: 7985904, member: 18"] I dunno. Post-Class Feature Variant they do. We didn't ever have a Ranger before that, because everyone avoided them like the plague, but the Class Feature Variants make them very solid, even exciting to play. The best status effect for your enemies to have is dead, which is what Warlocks deliver in spades, with terrifying EB+AB+Hex blasting. Hypnotic Pattern is available to all Arcane casters. Most of the time you can cast it without nailing your allies anyway, so you don't need Careful Spell. This is another good example of a niche situation being presented as a norm to try and make Sorcerer metamagic not look weak (and given how few metamagics Sorcerers have, and the other choices, many/most Sorcerers won't have Careful Spell, especially not at lower levels). That's not a "killer combo" the way EB+AB+Hex is. Which y'know, literally kills people, and gets rolling at Level 1 or 2, depending on how vital you think AB is, and is used every single encounter. Instead starting at a dead minimum of 5th, when you can use it twice per adventuring day, rather than many rounds in every fight (you can't initially use Hex in every fight, admittedly, but it gets there). More importantly, Hypnotic Pattern isn't a Sorcerer-specific spell. So it's not even your "thing". That's just careful spell - so you can place it more carelessly - but that, in my experience, will rarely be necessary. [/QUOTE]
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