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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Guest 6801328" data-source="post: 8002337">To me this sounds a little bit like arguing that subclass abilities that consume Channel Divinity are bad because you have to choose between them and the base class use for it.But I think I get what [USER=6801228]@Chaosmancer[/USER] is saying:Because Font of Magic is kinda sorta equivalent to Arcane Recovery, we can say that the two classes get about the same number of slots per day.  So let's call the two classes equal (so far).However, Wizards get to know a lot more spells.  Not only do they get Int modifier more spells known on any given day, they can also swap them out after any long rest, choosing from any in their spell book.  Score one point for Wizards.Sorcerers, on the other hand, get to juice up their spells with metamagic.  Score one for the Sorcerer."Hold on!" says chaosmancer, "Metamagic is powered through Sorcery Points, and we already spent those on spell slot recovery.  In weighing the Sorcerer against the Wizard we can include either Font of Magic or Metamagic, but not both!"If that's the argument, I think it does make sense logically.  But I disagree that it makes the Sorcerer strictly inferior.  If the Sorcerer had both the recovery and the metamagic, it would be too much.EDIT: I've been thinking about Sorcerers a lot over the last couple of weeks, and my favorite solution is (still)....drumroll...my own:<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Expanded spell list by subclass, with one spell at each spell level from 1 to 5</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Bonus spells can be cast for as many sorcery points as their level.*</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">OR if you cast bonus spells using spell slots, you get one free sorcery point to spend on that spell</li> </ul>If that sounds a little whimpy, consider that if a 5th level sorcerer cast ONLY bonus spells with all their slots they would have gotten 7 free sorcery points, compared to the 5 sorcery points they get by default.  So the more you stick to your theme, the greater the rewards.The tricky part, I'll acknowledge, is that the incentive to cast bonus spells is so great that the bonus spell list could really make or break the subclass.*I really like the thing in Shadow Sorcerer where if you cast it with a slot you can see through it, and at first I wanted to come up with something like that for every single bonus spell for every single subclass.  But that started to feel too complex/fiddly for 5e, and I think what I've got there is already powerful enough.</blockquote>

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