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<blockquote data-quote="Uruush" data-source="post: 271233" data-attributes="member: 42140">Monte Cook &amp; HasteThanks to all for the advice.&nbsp; I have a lot to chew on, and a lot of hard choices given that I'll only get to choose a couple 2nd level spells out of all those recommended, and maybe one 3rd level spell.I shelled out the bucks for a hard copy of BOEM2.&nbsp; It's pretty nice.&nbsp; Lots of cool ideas for Bards in there.&nbsp; Hmmm.... Naw.One thing I noticed right away is that Monte's variant spell list moved &quot;Haste&quot; from 3rd to 4th level, so if I want the cool skills list and hit die of this variant, I don't get a crack at trying Haste out unless I make it to 8th level.&nbsp; Makes Haste seem like forbidden fruit.&nbsp; Is it that great.&nbsp; What do you all think of Monte's patch in this regard?&nbsp; The ability to cast Haste 4 times a day for a 6th level Sorc with good CHA broken?&nbsp; If I don't&nbsp; play the variant Sorc, I almost certainly want to choose Haste as my single 3rd level spell at 6th level just to try it out....But I don't think I won't, as long as my DM lets me.&nbsp; I'd rather have the d6 hit die and Diplomacy as a class skill.&nbsp; I think Fireball or Hold Person fill in adequately... <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="Uruush, post: 271233, member: 42140"] [b]Monte Cook & Haste[/b] Thanks to all for the advice. I have a lot to chew on, and a lot of hard choices given that I'll only get to choose a couple 2nd level spells out of all those recommended, and maybe one 3rd level spell. I shelled out the bucks for a hard copy of BOEM2. It's pretty nice. Lots of cool ideas for Bards in there. Hmmm.... Naw. One thing I noticed right away is that Monte's variant spell list moved "Haste" from 3rd to 4th level, so if I want the cool skills list and hit die of this variant, I don't get a crack at trying Haste out unless I make it to 8th level. Makes Haste seem like forbidden fruit. Is it that great. What do you all think of Monte's patch in this regard? The ability to cast Haste 4 times a day for a 6th level Sorc with good CHA broken? If I don't play the variant Sorc, I almost certainly want to choose Haste as my single 3rd level spell at 6th level just to try it out.... But I don't think I won't, as long as my DM lets me. I'd rather have the d6 hit die and Diplomacy as a class skill. I think Fireball or Hold Person fill in adequately... :) [/QUOTE]

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