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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Khaalis" data-source="post: 1396255" data-attributes="member: 2167">First let me say thanks for posting. All input is of value to the discussion.On the Spell Resistance you are correct. I actually screwed up when writing this. I somehow missed a step in the line I was trying to progress and it ended up more powerful than intended. That line was supposed to end with the classic 50% chance of success for SR, assuming no spell penetration or greater spell penetration. This brings it back into line as a 20th level ability and is balanced with others with SR of the same CR (in fact it is a little below as many have SR 30+.9th: SR = Sorcerer Level17th: SR = 5 + Sorcerer Level20th: SR = 10 + Sorcerer Level (ie: SR 30)There is always room to work. I am always tweaking and comparing and evaluating.I will think on it, but it seems rather clunky compared to just having a theme of 1 spell per level. Or do you mean this in addition to the spell theme?First, I am totally lost as to where you get this. This is not how the ability works. It is much more limited than your portrayal. Nothing you wrote here applies to the ability as it is written other than “on the fly” uses per day.1) They can’t augment Any of their spells. The ability only works on their lineage spells. (10 spells by 20th  assuming it’s a +0 level feat, 9 spells if it’s a +1 level feat).2) They only gain 1 metamagic feat of choice from a selective list of +0 and +1 level metamagic feats.3) They still can’t use a +1 Level feat on 9th level spells so no, they cant Silent or Still a 9th level spell.”Choose one metamagic feat of choice from either: Enlarge Spell, Extend Spell, Heighten Spell, Silent Spell, or Still Spell (only feats with up to a 1 spell level adjustment may be chosen for this ability). This metamagic feat is a virtual feat that may be used “on-the fly” to effect any lineage spell (and only lineage spells) the sorcerer knows, a number of times per day equal to the sorcerer’s Charisma modifier. This feat is used without prior preparation, increased spell level or extended casting time. The maximum level of spell to which a caster can apply a metamagic feat is equal to the maximum spell level they are capable of casting, minus the spell level adjustment of the metamagic feat. If the result of this calculation is less than 0, then that metamagic feat cannot be used on any of the sorcerer's spells. A caster can apply more than one metamagic feat to a spell, or even the same metamagic effect more than once (if allowed by the feat's description). However, to determine the maximum level of spell that can be so affected, add together the spell level adjustments given for the various feats. The Heighten Spells feat may be used to increase a spell's effective level (for purpose of save DC's and so on) up to the maximum spell level you are capable of casting. The spell is treated as a spell of that level for purposes of save DC and similar effects, but does not require a higher level spell slot.”As for granting them new metamagic feats, I wanted to avoid just giving them a “Bonus Metamagic Feat” at 9th and 17th because it falls back to the original argument that the sorcerer is too much like the Wizard. I also don’t want to give a new metamagic “On the Fly” at each of these levels because then the sorcerer would have an insane amount of uses per day of these feats, that would be a bit of a waste because they can only be used on the lineage spells.I will start a new thread with a summary soon. I just dont like doing it because people begin to chime in as First Readers who havent read all of what has been covered to date and we end up backpeddling. But your claim has merit that people stop bothering with long threads.This thread has been split off to a new thread at: <a href="http://www.enworld.org/forums/showthread.php?t=78851" target="_blank">http://www.enworld.org/forums/showthread.php?t=78851</a></blockquote>

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