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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Stalker0" data-source="post: 1406454" data-attributes="member: 5889">This will be my last post for the week as I'm heading to spring break.Okay how about this ability:Essence of the Angels: A number of times equal to his cha mod, the sorceror may infuse a spell with extra energy from his angelic ancestors. The spell is treated with a +1 caster level. And this is not really a new mechanic, as the cleric good domain grants a +1 to caster level to all good spells... so players already know how to handle +1 caster levels, we are just changing when they can use and what spells they can use it on.About the added spell repetior. Khaalis, didn't you say that most people wanted us to limit the sorc's list? And yet, we are allowing them to access any good spell? But also, why are we really including a lineage spell list, if we are just giving them all this customability?We have to remember conciseness again... I had worried early on that people would have to start flipping pages and pages to figure out to compare each lineage and it was going to get complicated. And now when a sorc picks this lineage, they have all these new spells to look at from both their own, and clerical lists. Its too much imo.I think we need to cut this down, here are my suggestions:1) Keep the customability (adding the good spells, etc), but drop the lineage spells. We can say the sorc has an extra spell known that can be picked from among this new spells.Stalker's recommended: 2) Just drop the extra good spells, and stick to the lineage spell list. These are supposed to represent the sorc's ability to expand past his own innate list by including spells like planar ally, etc.Here's are the problems with the first:1) While I love customability, we are trying to be concise2) Too much overlap with the divine spell list is bad in my opinion. We can have a divine like sorc lineage without being too divine.You guys got me on board for the lineage spells, I've already described the reason I believe they both give the sorc more power and much more flavor.  But I think that's far enough.Well that's all I have for now, don't get TOO crazy with the lineages while I'm gone<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> And feel free to post some new ones during the week, I wouldn't mind going for the element ones next.</blockquote>

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