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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Greenfield" data-source="post: 6105489" data-attributes="member: 6669384"><The President is beckoning to his interpreter...>What feat/trait are you commenting on?  Sorry, but I seem to have missed the context for this post.Moving on...PRCs like Mystic Theurge and Ultimate Magus are for people whi like to have a *lot* of low level spells.  The price is that they never get (or acquire only with great difficulty) the higher level spell slots.As long as the player knows this going in, fine.  Accepting that they do know this going in, I'm not going to warn them that they'll be spell levels low.  They know that.I will point out that you will want/need to invest in a Practiced Spellcaster feat or two, and/or Spell Penetration, if you want to be effective when you start running into things with SR.  It's more or less required, and is a price that *isn't* quite so obvious going in.That 10th level build that was mentioned is not only limited to 3rd level spells, they're firing those 3rd level spells four caster levels below their real level.  That impacts every level dependent spell in their arsenal.  And I'm not just talking about Fireball and Lightning Bolt.  I'm including things like Dispel Magic and its kin.  I'm talking about Fly lasting six minutes instead of ten.  I'm talking about your (already range-challenged) Scorching Ray spell having only one ray instead of two, and firing that one ray an even shorter distance.Next consider Feats that have a caster level prerequisite, *and* those that specify things like "Must be able to cast 3rd level spells".  You'll make the 3rds easy.  5ths?  More of a problem.These PRCs have some neat bennies, but they come at a price, and at least part of that price is buried in the fine print.</blockquote>

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