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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Neonchameleon" data-source="post: 9138642" data-attributes="member: 87792">And the basic framework is 100% followed by the warlock. That basic framework is hit points, level, proficiencies, and saving throws and a warlock does this precisely like all other classes. What you are complaining about is that the Warlock doesn't follow the class specific framework of other classes. Which is a good thing. The tedious similarity between the wizard and the sorcerer is an actively bad thing for both classes and in a world where good design was considered important would lead to a wizard becoming a sorcerer subclass.And yet warlocks don't normally come up on top of the power surveys. Quite the reverse - they are near the bottom of the full caster surveys. And even the DPR comparison Treantmonk produced only showed that one single third level spell was overtuned when cast at fifth level. Yet because one single spell in Tasha's is overtuned to make up for the fact that the old Pact of the Blade was severely undertuned you want to use this as an excuse to flush the entire class.</blockquote>