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<blockquote data-quote="handforged" data-source="post: 973580" data-attributes="member: 2027"><p>I would say that such an ability should at least cost a feat, and could only be done once per spell gained. To refer to die_kluge's example, when Annelise reaches 8th level and gains the new level 4 spell, she may upgrade one chain to its fourth level counterpart, and then must spend the spell slot as normal.</p><p></p><p>It might also be necessary to say that a sorceror cannot start a chain late. Using the list above, Annelise couldn't upgrade her fireball to delayed blast fireball unless she also had burning hands and flaming sphere. This would help to limit the number of chains which get advanced as well, since high level abuse of certain chains could occur. A sorceror could wait until the fourth or fifth spell in the chain and then get an 8th or 9th level spell for free.</p><p></p><p>This will definitely make machine-gun sorcerors pretty powerful. If Boris the Boomer took the Spell Chaining feat at first level (and so could use it at every level he gained a spell), he could get...</p><p></p><p>The $ are spells I added to the lists, and I removed the non-PHB spells.</p><p></p><p>Shocking grasp 1 -> lightning bolt 3 -> chain lightning 6</p><p></p><p>Burning hands 1 -> flaming sphere 2 -> fireball 3 -> delayed blast fireball 7 -> meteor swarm 9</p><p></p><p>Chill touch 1 -> ice storm 4 -> cone of cold$ 5</p><p></p><p>Obscuring mist 1 -> fog cloud 2 -> stinking cloud 3 -> solid fog 4 -> cloudkill 5 -> acid fog 6 -> incendiary cloud 8</p><p></p><p>Color Spray$ 1 -> Prismatic spray 7 -> prismatic wall 8 -> prismatic sphere 9</p><p></p><p>That's 2 @ second, 3 @ third, 2 @ fourth, 2@ fifth, 2 @ sixth, 2 @ seventh, 2 @ eighth, and 2 @ ninth. A total of seventeen free spells. All of these chains could be achieved using only 5 level one spell slots, gained by character level seven. This does not count using higher level slots to gain access quicker, and overall would be worth the early sacrifice, since you can still get the free spell of the higher level before you decide to use the slot for a lower level spell.</p><p></p><p>Boris would be quite the boomer with all of those spells plus all the other spells his real spell slots would provide.</p><p></p><p>~hf</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="handforged, post: 973580, member: 2027"] I would say that such an ability should at least cost a feat, and could only be done once per spell gained. To refer to die_kluge's example, when Annelise reaches 8th level and gains the new level 4 spell, she may upgrade one chain to its fourth level counterpart, and then must spend the spell slot as normal. It might also be necessary to say that a sorceror cannot start a chain late. Using the list above, Annelise couldn't upgrade her fireball to delayed blast fireball unless she also had burning hands and flaming sphere. This would help to limit the number of chains which get advanced as well, since high level abuse of certain chains could occur. A sorceror could wait until the fourth or fifth spell in the chain and then get an 8th or 9th level spell for free. This will definitely make machine-gun sorcerors pretty powerful. If Boris the Boomer took the Spell Chaining feat at first level (and so could use it at every level he gained a spell), he could get... The $ are spells I added to the lists, and I removed the non-PHB spells. Shocking grasp 1 -> lightning bolt 3 -> chain lightning 6 Burning hands 1 -> flaming sphere 2 -> fireball 3 -> delayed blast fireball 7 -> meteor swarm 9 Chill touch 1 -> ice storm 4 -> cone of cold$ 5 Obscuring mist 1 -> fog cloud 2 -> stinking cloud 3 -> solid fog 4 -> cloudkill 5 -> acid fog 6 -> incendiary cloud 8 Color Spray$ 1 -> Prismatic spray 7 -> prismatic wall 8 -> prismatic sphere 9 That's 2 @ second, 3 @ third, 2 @ fourth, 2@ fifth, 2 @ sixth, 2 @ seventh, 2 @ eighth, and 2 @ ninth. A total of seventeen free spells. All of these chains could be achieved using only 5 level one spell slots, gained by character level seven. This does not count using higher level slots to gain access quicker, and overall would be worth the early sacrifice, since you can still get the free spell of the higher level before you decide to use the slot for a lower level spell. Boris would be quite the boomer with all of those spells plus all the other spells his real spell slots would provide. ~hf [/QUOTE]
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