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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Merlion" data-source="post: 1739829" data-attributes="member: 10397">I've already done that by using Monte Cook's variant sorcerer. If I wanted more beyond that, I'd just alter their spells known progression furtherI think that the drawback was overdone. But that isnt the point of this thread. The point is, I want them to be able to research spells like everyone else. I keep saying that again and again and again but people keep insisting I'm just giving the sorcerer more spells.I've already done that by using Monte Cook's variant sorcerer. If I wanted more beyond that, I'd just alter their spells known progression further They already are wizards. Wizards and sorcerers represent the same basic archtype, and fill the same basic role in a party. The difference is really mainly in flavour...wether you want to play a book-mage or a born-mage. And to reinforce that flavour, they have a different method of casting. I just think its sad theres no way to do a bit of both.As to the actual issue tho...I did realize another way to deal with it, that is more what I am after than spell swapping, is to simply let them research at any time, and gain the spell as normal, and then they "skip" their next newly learned spell of that level that they would gain through level advancement.</blockquote>