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<blockquote data-quote="Sollir Furryfoot" data-source="post: 4123747" data-attributes="member: 748"><p>This seems really fun and a nice start to making the sorcerer its own class, good work! It does seem a little weak compared to the base class, which is already a fairly weak class. Mostly I think because it takes away the large amount of spells per day which is traditionally the sorcerer's strength.</p><p></p><p>For balancing reference, there's a variant of Sorcerer called Battle Sorcerer from Unearthed Arcana that can be found in the SRD: <a href="http://www.d20srd.org/indexes/variantClasses.htm" target="_blank">http://www.d20srd.org/indexes/variantClasses.htm</a></p><p></p><p>They basically get d8 HD and 3/4 BAB in exchange for -1 Spell Known and Per Day (minimum of 1 per gained level). I think you should follow this route instead of taking away more spells per day.</p><p></p><p>In addition to the talisman ability you gave them 4 more skill points, I think it'd be safe if you wanted to give them d6 HD. I like the concept of a talisman boosting spells, but I guess I don't see the point in eliminating components-it seems to make them more akin to psychics then spellcasters necessarily. Perhaps consider revamping the rules so you can personalize your talisman as you level up? Maybe pick a descriptor, [fire] [mind-affecting] or [fear] for instance and you can cast spells at +1 DC/+1 Caster level? Also, XP loss is harsh even if there is precedence. Perhaps consider some other kind of penalty? - 1/2 Caster level until a new one is made, maybe?</p><p></p><p>There's a variant wizard that Paizo is putting out for their Pathfinder Alpha that allows wizards to have a 'talisman' which they can enchant (as a wand/ring/amulet, etc... depending on its form) as if they had the appropriate Magic Item Creation feats and at half price. If you have time to go to <a href="http://www.paizo.com" target="_blank">www.paizo.com</a>, the Pathfinder Alpha book is a free download.</p><p></p><p>Good work and good luck should you choose to edit it some more!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Sollir Furryfoot, post: 4123747, member: 748"] This seems really fun and a nice start to making the sorcerer its own class, good work! It does seem a little weak compared to the base class, which is already a fairly weak class. Mostly I think because it takes away the large amount of spells per day which is traditionally the sorcerer's strength. For balancing reference, there's a variant of Sorcerer called Battle Sorcerer from Unearthed Arcana that can be found in the SRD: [url]http://www.d20srd.org/indexes/variantClasses.htm[/url] They basically get d8 HD and 3/4 BAB in exchange for -1 Spell Known and Per Day (minimum of 1 per gained level). I think you should follow this route instead of taking away more spells per day. In addition to the talisman ability you gave them 4 more skill points, I think it'd be safe if you wanted to give them d6 HD. I like the concept of a talisman boosting spells, but I guess I don't see the point in eliminating components-it seems to make them more akin to psychics then spellcasters necessarily. Perhaps consider revamping the rules so you can personalize your talisman as you level up? Maybe pick a descriptor, [fire] [mind-affecting] or [fear] for instance and you can cast spells at +1 DC/+1 Caster level? Also, XP loss is harsh even if there is precedence. Perhaps consider some other kind of penalty? - 1/2 Caster level until a new one is made, maybe? There's a variant wizard that Paizo is putting out for their Pathfinder Alpha that allows wizards to have a 'talisman' which they can enchant (as a wand/ring/amulet, etc... depending on its form) as if they had the appropriate Magic Item Creation feats and at half price. If you have time to go to [url]www.paizo.com[/url], the Pathfinder Alpha book is a free download. Good work and good luck should you choose to edit it some more! [/QUOTE]
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