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<blockquote data-quote="MoonSong" data-source="post: 7536414" data-attributes="member: 6689464">Yet no amount of metamagic will turn a fireball into a familiar, it can't even turn a fireball into an iceball.At least something.But sorcerers used to be niche fillers, take a niche and fulfill it using magic.&nbsp; Not wizard substitutes, but a different way to do the rogue. Because fans of the simple caster surely are in love with having it become the class for System Mastery.No doubt the synergy&nbsp; is good, but it doesn't matter if mixing a little of sorcerer makes the best bards and the best paladins if it makes for a poor experience on its own. I want a good sorcerer not a better paladin -Ok I like the better paladin too, but the class makes for an underwhelming sorcerer experience-. And that just means that no sane DM will ever let me get anywhere near it, so it may as well not be a thing. In short, the class is poorly constructed. The overpowered builds that require system mastery are outliers that completely outperform everything else you can do with the class. Worse, they overshadow what the average player can actually do with it. -And the class is barely playable without shadow/divine and variant human-</blockquote>

[QUOTE="MoonSong, post: 7536414, member: 6689464"] Yet no amount of metamagic will turn a fireball into a familiar, it can't even turn a fireball into an iceball. At least something. But sorcerers used to be niche fillers, take a niche and fulfill it using magic. Not wizard substitutes, but a different way to do the rogue. Because fans of the simple caster surely are in love with having it become the class for System Mastery. No doubt the synergy is good, but it doesn't matter if mixing a little of sorcerer makes the best bards and the best paladins if it makes for a poor experience on its own. I want a good sorcerer not a better paladin -Ok I like the better paladin too, but the class makes for an underwhelming sorcerer experience-. And that just means that no sane DM will ever let me get anywhere near it, so it may as well not be a thing. In short, the class is poorly constructed. The overpowered builds that require system mastery are outliers that completely outperform everything else you can do with the class. Worse, they overshadow what the average player can actually do with it. -And the class is barely playable without shadow/divine and variant human- [/QUOTE]

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