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<blockquote data-quote="MostlyHarmless42" data-source="post: 7536479" data-attributes="member: 6845520">The Evocationist wizard begs to differ, albeit I'll concede we are mostly talking about higher levels that most tables never reach and while I'd never suggest that someone playing a wizard to blast is &quot;doing it wrong&quot;, the class offers so much more in terms of utility and battlefield support. Still, as a pure focused blaster I'd wager sculpting your spells and a superior spell list are more fulfilling and practical in the longterm than the the ability to cast an extra cantrip in a round and give the party only half damage on your fireballs a limited amount of times per day, especially when both abilities compete for the same resource. And while the the metamagic that grants an autosave to allies can be used for more than evocation, it is only evened out by a lackluster spell list and limited number of spells known, which is to say nothing of if it even happens before 10th level as the third metamagic, unless you're going to try to argue with me that a dedicated nova blaster sorcerer spec will have room for enough utility spells and wont take twin AND quicken at level 3 for both their metamagics. And at 10th level, we're at where overchannel will soon start coming into the conversation.That all said. I agree that I dont think the sorcerer is in drastic need of help. The problem is that a few builds (fire sorcerer and Devine soul) are absolutely leaps and bounds ahead of all other builds due to lackluster options. This boring and frustrating as it pigeonholes players substantively more than any other class.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="MostlyHarmless42, post: 7536479, member: 6845520"] The Evocationist wizard begs to differ, albeit I'll concede we are mostly talking about higher levels that most tables never reach and while I'd never suggest that someone playing a wizard to blast is "doing it wrong", the class offers so much more in terms of utility and battlefield support. Still, as a pure focused blaster I'd wager sculpting your spells and a superior spell list are more fulfilling and practical in the longterm than the the ability to cast an extra cantrip in a round and give the party only half damage on your fireballs a limited amount of times per day, especially when both abilities compete for the same resource. And while the the metamagic that grants an autosave to allies can be used for more than evocation, it is only evened out by a lackluster spell list and limited number of spells known, which is to say nothing of if it even happens before 10th level as the third metamagic, unless you're going to try to argue with me that a dedicated nova blaster sorcerer spec will have room for enough utility spells and wont take twin AND quicken at level 3 for both their metamagics. And at 10th level, we're at where overchannel will soon start coming into the conversation. That all said. I agree that I dont think the sorcerer is in drastic need of help. The problem is that a few builds (fire sorcerer and Devine soul) are absolutely leaps and bounds ahead of all other builds due to lackluster options. This boring and frustrating as it pigeonholes players substantively more than any other class. [/QUOTE]

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