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<blockquote data-quote="jgsugden" data-source="post: 7536614" data-attributes="member: 2629">I have trouble believing that most people posting on these threads have actually played a spellcaster.Wizard: I always have magic at hand with rituals and cantrips.&nbsp; While I can essentially have an unliited number of spells in my spellbook, it doesn't really matter that much as my geatest limitation is the number of spells I can prepare - and the next greatest limitation is the number of spell slots I have.&nbsp; There are a lot of wizards that find they've spent quite a few coins adding to their spellbook - and never getting real use out of them because they can't find the space to prepare them... or, even if prepared, were not used.&nbsp; Also, as the only intelligence focused class, you provide answers that nobody else is likely to have (except perhaps a bard). Sorcerer: I have more cantrips than the wizard, but my actual spells known are quite limited.&nbsp; I usually know about 50% to 75% of the number of spells that a wizard can prepare... and about 4 slots for every 3 spell slots I have.&nbsp; I can add a level of bard (or warlock) to further expand those cantrips and spell slots slightly, but it is at the expense of access to higher level spells as early as possible.&nbsp; I usually have less spell slots than the wizard per long rest as well... we both have mechanics to regain spells that are comporable - but I typicaally find it better to use those sorcery points on metamagic.&nbsp; I also have a lot of opportunities to be the face of the party with my high charisma.&nbsp; That should not be ignored.However, we both have a similar core experience.&nbsp; We have a similar number of slots, we have similar spell lists, and we both tend to cast a small selection of spells repeatedly.&nbsp; I know a lot of wizards and sorcerers that use most of their first level slots on shield, made armor and/or absorb elements.&nbsp; The difference in spells known/prepared between the classes manifests in the wizard having a few more flexible spells... not a few more powerhouse spells.&nbsp; I've played both.&nbsp; I've enjoyed both.&nbsp; Bother were effective PCs ... and though I often found the limitations on both classes frustrating, they were meaningful and made for interesting decisions.&nbsp; Accordingly, there is no winner.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="jgsugden, post: 7536614, member: 2629"] I have trouble believing that most people posting on these threads have actually played a spellcaster. Wizard: I always have magic at hand with rituals and cantrips. While I can essentially have an unliited number of spells in my spellbook, it doesn't really matter that much as my geatest limitation is the number of spells I can prepare - and the next greatest limitation is the number of spell slots I have. There are a lot of wizards that find they've spent quite a few coins adding to their spellbook - and never getting real use out of them because they can't find the space to prepare them... or, even if prepared, were not used. Also, as the only intelligence focused class, you provide answers that nobody else is likely to have (except perhaps a bard). Sorcerer: I have more cantrips than the wizard, but my actual spells known are quite limited. I usually know about 50% to 75% of the number of spells that a wizard can prepare... and about 4 slots for every 3 spell slots I have. I can add a level of bard (or warlock) to further expand those cantrips and spell slots slightly, but it is at the expense of access to higher level spells as early as possible. I usually have less spell slots than the wizard per long rest as well... we both have mechanics to regain spells that are comporable - but I typicaally find it better to use those sorcery points on metamagic. I also have a lot of opportunities to be the face of the party with my high charisma. That should not be ignored. However, we both have a similar core experience. We have a similar number of slots, we have similar spell lists, and we both tend to cast a small selection of spells repeatedly. I know a lot of wizards and sorcerers that use most of their first level slots on shield, made armor and/or absorb elements. The difference in spells known/prepared between the classes manifests in the wizard having a few more flexible spells... not a few more powerhouse spells. I've played both. I've enjoyed both. Bother were effective PCs ... and though I often found the limitations on both classes frustrating, they were meaningful and made for interesting decisions. Accordingly, there is no winner. [/QUOTE]

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