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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Benben" data-source="post: 811392" data-attributes="member: 110">Maybe my mind still being hazy but here are my calculations.The spellcraft limitation means that a character will qualify by 4th level.  This gives two possible caster level combinations: 3/1 or 2/2.Add ten levels of arcanist and we have caster level 13/11 or 12/12.  This is  a 14th level character.This gives us six more levels to play with.  This is a lot more combinations but let's look at maxed: 18/12, balanced: 15/15, spell level optimixed: 17/13.So 9th level spells are possible but only in one class.  The optimixed mix gives 9th and 7th, and the balanced build gains access to 8th level spells in both classes.If you'll let me continue out my thought experiment:Assuming: Cleric 9/Wizard 1/ Arcanist 10.BAB: +11.Saves: F +9, R +6, W +11.HP: 9D8+11D4 an average of 68.The above is the best possible BAB and clerical turning.Assuming: Cleric 5, Wizard 5, Arcanist 10BAB: +10Saves: F +6, R +3, W +9HP: 5D8+15D4 an average of 60Those saves hurt to look at.Assuming: Wizard 7, Cleric 3, Arcanist 10BAB: +8Saves: F +6, R +4, W +9HP: 17D4 + 3D8 an average of 56The above is our optimized arcane caster.Assuming: Cleric 7, Wizard 3, Arcanist 10BAB: +11Saves: F +7, R +4, W +9HP: 7D8 + 13D4 an average of 64This is a very good prestige class but it's not the best one out there.  My gut instict tells me to give it a 2-3 worthless feat requirements and call it good.</blockquote>