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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Pax" data-source="post: 325932" data-attributes="member: 6875">Perhaps noone has ever introduced you to a simple concept" character knowledge and player knowledge are seperate, and can be kept that way.I the player have a plan for my sorceror.  The Sorceror however, has only vague desires and inclinations (like my current (campaign on hiatus for hte summer) Ethen, who only knows in character, that there're metamagics that allow shifting elemental-damage spells from one type of damage to another, and he plans to get them all; that he, therefor, plans to pick up elemental-damage type spells for his damaging attack spells; that he will probably also pick up several noncombat spells, depending on what's available when.Where's the metagaming there?  The character -knows- there are Elemental Substitution metamagics(his parents sent him to a wizard for tutelage when his powers first manifested, though all he was really able to learn was the Spellcraft skill, and through that, has a basic understanding of what metamagics are out there, and so forth).  In fact, he -started- the game with one (he's Human, his resultant two initial feats were Empower Spell and Elemental Substitution (Electrical)).Anythign on the "Planning sheet" is player knowledge, not character.  Ask Ethen in-character what spells he'll know when he's much higher level, and he'll ask you what you mean by "level" ... ask him what he'll be able to cast when he's "farmore advanced in the Arts" and he might name off one or two widely-known spells (widely known among those who have ranks of Spellcraft, IOW), and point out his plans WRT the ElSub metamagicks.But that;s all he knows.  I know more, but Ethen is not me, nor am I Ethen.Again -- how is THAT, metagaming?</blockquote>

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