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Sorcerers Should Be Constitution-Based Casters, Not Charisma
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<blockquote data-quote="Li Shenron" data-source="post: 8241802" data-attributes="member: 1465"><p>I don't have a particular preference.</p><p></p><p>I think that using Constitution would probably make them more single-ability-score-dependent, therefore "cheaper" to build, since Charisma would become a potentially dump stat for them. But since Sorcerer already get slightly less than other classes, I wouldn't mind too much.</p><p></p><p>Rather, the main downside of having a class whose abilities depend on Charisma, is that every character of that class automatically becomes socially awesome. That's not exactly equivalent to other classes depending for example on Intelligence (automatically a genius) or Wisdom (automatically very attentive/aware) or a physical ability. The difference is that high Charisma impacts the whole group... if you have a top-Charisma character in the party, many groups will be tempted to have everyone else dump their own Charisma, and let the charismatic PC handle all social interactions. Other stats have a more individual nature, but Charisma works in a more "shared" fashion compared to others.</p><p></p><p>In addition, while it makes total sense for a Bard to always necessarily have high Charisma, because by definition a Bard is a master of social interaction, be it storytelling or performance or whatever, there's no particular reason why some Sorcerers could instead be shy or socially inept.</p><p></p><p>There is no real bad thing that would happen from having a Constitution-based spellcaster by the way, unless someone has a very conservative thinking that spellcasting stat must be one of the 3 mental stats (I digress, but since Constitution affects concentration, it means it's not ONLY a physical stat, but represents something both physical and mental). In fact, in the 3e Rokugan fantasy setting where all playable spellcasters are of the Shugenja class, the spellcasting stat depends on your chosen natural element, and Earth-based Shugenja use Constitution without causing problems to the game.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Li Shenron, post: 8241802, member: 1465"] I don't have a particular preference. I think that using Constitution would probably make them more single-ability-score-dependent, therefore "cheaper" to build, since Charisma would become a potentially dump stat for them. But since Sorcerer already get slightly less than other classes, I wouldn't mind too much. Rather, the main downside of having a class whose abilities depend on Charisma, is that every character of that class automatically becomes socially awesome. That's not exactly equivalent to other classes depending for example on Intelligence (automatically a genius) or Wisdom (automatically very attentive/aware) or a physical ability. The difference is that high Charisma impacts the whole group... if you have a top-Charisma character in the party, many groups will be tempted to have everyone else dump their own Charisma, and let the charismatic PC handle all social interactions. Other stats have a more individual nature, but Charisma works in a more "shared" fashion compared to others. In addition, while it makes total sense for a Bard to always necessarily have high Charisma, because by definition a Bard is a master of social interaction, be it storytelling or performance or whatever, there's no particular reason why some Sorcerers could instead be shy or socially inept. There is no real bad thing that would happen from having a Constitution-based spellcaster by the way, unless someone has a very conservative thinking that spellcasting stat must be one of the 3 mental stats (I digress, but since Constitution affects concentration, it means it's not ONLY a physical stat, but represents something both physical and mental). In fact, in the 3e Rokugan fantasy setting where all playable spellcasters are of the Shugenja class, the spellcasting stat depends on your chosen natural element, and Earth-based Shugenja use Constitution without causing problems to the game. [/QUOTE]
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