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<blockquote data-quote="Merlion" data-source="post: 2635965" data-attributes="member: 10397"><p>I'm not predisposed to the Wizard. Actually at this point I am not terribly disposed toward the bulk of D&D classes. I'd much rather have the AE Magister than the Wizard OR the Sorcerer. </p><p></p><p>And it isnt reallly subjective. The mechanics are the mechanics...some things are better than others. And even if which advantage is better than another is subjective, the sheer number of advantages are not.</p><p></p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p></p><p>Not really. The Sorcerers one advantage is the ability to cast spells without preperation. That advantage is more or less negated by their extremely limited spells known combined with their slower spell level aqquisition. </p><p></p><p>So their casting is at best even...and in most situations the Wizard will be ever so slightly better off. And then on top of that, Wizards get bonus feats.</p><p></p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p></p><p>There arent that many circumstantial spells in the game. And those that there are are going to be rarely prepared by Wizards, and also rarely learned by Sorcerers, simply because they are circumstantial. </p><p></p><p>But its easier overall for a Wizard to devote a handful of slots of various levels each day to circumstantial or somewhat circumstantial spells than for a Sorcerer to learn any.</p><p></p><p>because a Wizard can prepare just as many spells as a Sorcerer can know at all of a given level. But the Wizard can still know many of those spells that the Sorcerer doesnt know at all, and that he doesnt have prepared. But, he has the option of preparing and casting them, himself. The Sorcerer doesnt. He has to get a scroll or other item of the spell.</p><p></p><p>Thats the big thing. And many of those circumstantial spells, it wont be a problem to wait a day for the Wizard to prepare. But the Sorcerer just doesnt have them, period. Scrolls can be somewhat of an equalizer, but even in that..Wizards get Scribe Scroll for free, and are more likely to know the spells to scribe them. A Sorcerer must find a scroll of a given spell as treasure or to buy in order to be able to use a spell he doesnt know...and he doesnt know very many at all. The Wizard knows far more, and can scribe his own scrolls AND go and try to find/buy scrolls of those spells he doesnt know.</p><p></p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p></p><p>This is almost always going to be the case. Cause having a huge multiplicity of spells doesnt do you any good if you dont have the actions to cast them. But being able to do a variety of things, create a variety of effects, is always useful. And Wizards have enough slots to get good out of most of what they have. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p></p><p>Exactly.</p><p></p><p>Of course then the response will be "having the right spell doesnt do you any good if you dont have the slots to prepare it". But the disparity is less. Wizards still get a lot of spell slots, and a lot of spells known. Sorcerers get even more slots, but a whole lot less spells known.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Merlion, post: 2635965, member: 10397"] I'm not predisposed to the Wizard. Actually at this point I am not terribly disposed toward the bulk of D&D classes. I'd much rather have the AE Magister than the Wizard OR the Sorcerer. And it isnt reallly subjective. The mechanics are the mechanics...some things are better than others. And even if which advantage is better than another is subjective, the sheer number of advantages are not. Not really. The Sorcerers one advantage is the ability to cast spells without preperation. That advantage is more or less negated by their extremely limited spells known combined with their slower spell level aqquisition. So their casting is at best even...and in most situations the Wizard will be ever so slightly better off. And then on top of that, Wizards get bonus feats. There arent that many circumstantial spells in the game. And those that there are are going to be rarely prepared by Wizards, and also rarely learned by Sorcerers, simply because they are circumstantial. But its easier overall for a Wizard to devote a handful of slots of various levels each day to circumstantial or somewhat circumstantial spells than for a Sorcerer to learn any. because a Wizard can prepare just as many spells as a Sorcerer can know at all of a given level. But the Wizard can still know many of those spells that the Sorcerer doesnt know at all, and that he doesnt have prepared. But, he has the option of preparing and casting them, himself. The Sorcerer doesnt. He has to get a scroll or other item of the spell. Thats the big thing. And many of those circumstantial spells, it wont be a problem to wait a day for the Wizard to prepare. But the Sorcerer just doesnt have them, period. Scrolls can be somewhat of an equalizer, but even in that..Wizards get Scribe Scroll for free, and are more likely to know the spells to scribe them. A Sorcerer must find a scroll of a given spell as treasure or to buy in order to be able to use a spell he doesnt know...and he doesnt know very many at all. The Wizard knows far more, and can scribe his own scrolls AND go and try to find/buy scrolls of those spells he doesnt know. This is almost always going to be the case. Cause having a huge multiplicity of spells doesnt do you any good if you dont have the actions to cast them. But being able to do a variety of things, create a variety of effects, is always useful. And Wizards have enough slots to get good out of most of what they have. Exactly. Of course then the response will be "having the right spell doesnt do you any good if you dont have the slots to prepare it". But the disparity is less. Wizards still get a lot of spell slots, and a lot of spells known. Sorcerers get even more slots, but a whole lot less spells known. [/QUOTE]
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