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<blockquote data-quote="Felix" data-source="post: 2636214" data-attributes="member: 3929"><p><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue :p" data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" /></p><p><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p></p><p>Right, but at any given time, the wizard will have three, and so will the sorcerer. And the sorcerer can cast them twice as many times. It's a question of preparation, as it has been this entire thread.</p><p></p><p></p><p>It is indeed. It is his greatest strength. Offset, in my opinion, by the drive to use that diversity. Frankly, I think any wizard with 3 9th level slots should have: <em>Time Stop, Foresight</em>, and an open slot. The sorcerer is also able to have those two spells, but he can cast them more times, and have a third one ready. So the question is "how important is it that you get the right 9th level spell instead of being able to cast those two necessary spells multiple times".</p><p></p><p>And I think they come out even in the end.</p><p></p><p></p><p>If that situation is typical, then yes, the wizard will be more powerful. However, its typicality is the provence of the DM, and subject to change.</p><p></p><p></p><p>He can't spend it on long-lasting spell diversity, but rather spends it on immediate spell diversity. It's not as useful in the long run, but it does have virtue in being able to be used whenever the sorc needs it, eh?</p><p></p><p></p><p>And that's the wizard's strength.</p><p></p><p>Sometimes you need a particular spell, "but hey, take your time" ... call a wizard.</p><p></p><p>Other times you need "Kill it, kill it, killitKILLIT<strong>KILLIT!!!</strong>" ... hire a sorcerer.</p><p></p><p></p><p>You miss the point. If you come up on a prismatic wall, and need to bypass it <em>now</em>, the sorcerer will be better at it. If you need to take the thing down, which takes more time, the wizard will be better.</p><p></p><p>Have time ---> Wizard</p><p>Do it now ---> Sorcerer</p><p></p><p>Different strengths, man. Who cares if you're out of 4th or 5th level spells when it's better to be alive? If there's no threat to the party, then take the time, and bring the wall down. Different situations call for different measures. Same as the strengths of any classes, eh?</p><p></p><p></p><p>I can dig that. I think, however, that it is only a "bit". Overall, I think it's a wash. It really and truly depends upon the situations the characters find themselves in.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Felix, post: 2636214, member: 3929"] :p :) Right, but at any given time, the wizard will have three, and so will the sorcerer. And the sorcerer can cast them twice as many times. It's a question of preparation, as it has been this entire thread. It is indeed. It is his greatest strength. Offset, in my opinion, by the drive to use that diversity. Frankly, I think any wizard with 3 9th level slots should have: [i]Time Stop, Foresight[/i], and an open slot. The sorcerer is also able to have those two spells, but he can cast them more times, and have a third one ready. So the question is "how important is it that you get the right 9th level spell instead of being able to cast those two necessary spells multiple times". And I think they come out even in the end. If that situation is typical, then yes, the wizard will be more powerful. However, its typicality is the provence of the DM, and subject to change. He can't spend it on long-lasting spell diversity, but rather spends it on immediate spell diversity. It's not as useful in the long run, but it does have virtue in being able to be used whenever the sorc needs it, eh? And that's the wizard's strength. Sometimes you need a particular spell, "but hey, take your time" ... call a wizard. Other times you need "Kill it, kill it, killitKILLIT[b]KILLIT!!![/b]" ... hire a sorcerer. You miss the point. If you come up on a prismatic wall, and need to bypass it [i]now[/i], the sorcerer will be better at it. If you need to take the thing down, which takes more time, the wizard will be better. Have time ---> Wizard Do it now ---> Sorcerer Different strengths, man. Who cares if you're out of 4th or 5th level spells when it's better to be alive? If there's no threat to the party, then take the time, and bring the wall down. Different situations call for different measures. Same as the strengths of any classes, eh? I can dig that. I think, however, that it is only a "bit". Overall, I think it's a wash. It really and truly depends upon the situations the characters find themselves in. [/QUOTE]
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