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<blockquote data-quote="Lonely Tylenol" data-source="post: 2639745" data-attributes="member: 18549"><p>Yeah, I was aware of the metamagic thing. I actually think sorcerers are pretty good. I think they can use a little extra...but they're pretty good. Mostly because of metamagic. If it weren't for the spontaneous metamagic, they'd be pretty dismal. But this is a separate issue from what I've been addressing, and the quoted post above was me trying to goad that particular poster into contributing something rather than just repeating unsubstantiated assertions.</p><p></p><p>re: your other post above:</p><p>I have never played a wizard character below about level 7 who didn't cast all his spells each day. I have no idea what you're talking about with the wizards who always have unused spells left over. Seriously, who does that? You empower the scorching ray, not the fireball, because you might not use an empowered fireball (and then you have a 5th level slot left over to boot). Your logic above dictates the sensible mode of action taken by wizards with metamagic feats. You carefully choose which spells to metamagic so that they'll be maximally useful.</p><p></p><p>By the time my wizards have spells left at the end of the day, it's because they have so many spells they just didn't get to use them all, not because they weren't the right spells. The "not the right spells" are all on scrolls so I don't have to waste valuable slots preparing them, which would probably leave me with spells left over at the end of the day.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Lonely Tylenol, post: 2639745, member: 18549"] Yeah, I was aware of the metamagic thing. I actually think sorcerers are pretty good. I think they can use a little extra...but they're pretty good. Mostly because of metamagic. If it weren't for the spontaneous metamagic, they'd be pretty dismal. But this is a separate issue from what I've been addressing, and the quoted post above was me trying to goad that particular poster into contributing something rather than just repeating unsubstantiated assertions. re: your other post above: I have never played a wizard character below about level 7 who didn't cast all his spells each day. I have no idea what you're talking about with the wizards who always have unused spells left over. Seriously, who does that? You empower the scorching ray, not the fireball, because you might not use an empowered fireball (and then you have a 5th level slot left over to boot). Your logic above dictates the sensible mode of action taken by wizards with metamagic feats. You carefully choose which spells to metamagic so that they'll be maximally useful. By the time my wizards have spells left at the end of the day, it's because they have so many spells they just didn't get to use them all, not because they weren't the right spells. The "not the right spells" are all on scrolls so I don't have to waste valuable slots preparing them, which would probably leave me with spells left over at the end of the day. [/QUOTE]
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