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<blockquote data-quote="Lonely Tylenol" data-source="post: 2643940" data-attributes="member: 18549"><p>Drop the slander. It's unbecoming, and contrary to the forum rules.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Sure. Sorcerers can spend a fortune on buying all the scrolls they like. But wizards get them for half price based on a class ability. I never said that sorcerers shouldn't/couldn't buy scrolls. They should...at least until they can get hold of staves, which are generally superior. But it's much more expensive for them to do so.</p><p></p><p>Wizards have a class ability that lets them get the most out of their large spell repertoire by having backup spells for cheap. This is not something to be ignored.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>So you're saying it should be easier to buy scrolls than to buy materials to make scrolls, because so many people are making scrolls? Where are they getting their materials from, then? Wouldn't a shortage of scroll-making materials drive up the price of scrolls so that it becomes prohibitive, causing a lack of demand, causing many to drop out of the scroll-producing market, alleviating the demand on scroll-making materials, and making them easier to buy than scrolls? Something funny going on there, I think.</p><p></p><p>And yeah, it's a lucrative business. You make twice what you put into it, as long as you go kill some goblins every once in a while to keep the XP flowing.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I did not and am not ignoring it. It simply costs double for sorcerers what it does for wizards, which is not a minor issue. If a sorcerer is awarded twice the gp of the wizard, then they have equal access to scrolls, and then the wizard is no longer more capable of dealing with unforseen circumstances. But this isn't the case.</p><p></p><p>And yes, I know it costs money to add spells to your spellbook. 100 gp/page, plus the cost of the scroll, if any. However, this is a one-time "startup" cost, and afterwards the wizard can prepare or scribe the spell as often as he pleases. This cost is absorbed to some extent over time, dwarfed by the geometrically escalating treasure charts. Entrepreneurial wizards will also try to recoup some of that loss by charging to allow other wizards to copy their spellbooks for 50 gp/spell level. Another good wizard cottage industry that doesn't even cost XP.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I like the way that it's only <em>my opinion</em> that wizards should make scrolls using their class feature, but it's <em>a fact</em> that sorcerers should have scrolls. That's a funny one.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Lonely Tylenol, post: 2643940, member: 18549"] Drop the slander. It's unbecoming, and contrary to the forum rules. Sure. Sorcerers can spend a fortune on buying all the scrolls they like. But wizards get them for half price based on a class ability. I never said that sorcerers shouldn't/couldn't buy scrolls. They should...at least until they can get hold of staves, which are generally superior. But it's much more expensive for them to do so. Wizards have a class ability that lets them get the most out of their large spell repertoire by having backup spells for cheap. This is not something to be ignored. So you're saying it should be easier to buy scrolls than to buy materials to make scrolls, because so many people are making scrolls? Where are they getting their materials from, then? Wouldn't a shortage of scroll-making materials drive up the price of scrolls so that it becomes prohibitive, causing a lack of demand, causing many to drop out of the scroll-producing market, alleviating the demand on scroll-making materials, and making them easier to buy than scrolls? Something funny going on there, I think. And yeah, it's a lucrative business. You make twice what you put into it, as long as you go kill some goblins every once in a while to keep the XP flowing. I did not and am not ignoring it. It simply costs double for sorcerers what it does for wizards, which is not a minor issue. If a sorcerer is awarded twice the gp of the wizard, then they have equal access to scrolls, and then the wizard is no longer more capable of dealing with unforseen circumstances. But this isn't the case. And yes, I know it costs money to add spells to your spellbook. 100 gp/page, plus the cost of the scroll, if any. However, this is a one-time "startup" cost, and afterwards the wizard can prepare or scribe the spell as often as he pleases. This cost is absorbed to some extent over time, dwarfed by the geometrically escalating treasure charts. Entrepreneurial wizards will also try to recoup some of that loss by charging to allow other wizards to copy their spellbooks for 50 gp/spell level. Another good wizard cottage industry that doesn't even cost XP. I like the way that it's only [i]my opinion[/i] that wizards should make scrolls using their class feature, but it's [i]a fact[/i] that sorcerers should have scrolls. That's a funny one. [/QUOTE]
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