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<blockquote data-quote="Eldorian" data-source="post: 772195" data-attributes="member: 10504"><p>Make a list of attack, defence, and utility. Make sure that the attack spells list contains at least one from each type of save, for every 3 spell levels (ie, don't go more than 3 spell levels without having an attack spell based on each save). Make sure you have a good amount of both phsyical and magical defence spells, ghost form is great for this, 50% miss on both, also incorprabilty and flying utility. Make sure your utility are of wide scope, such as Shades and Shadow Conjuration. Eyebite is a good spell for sorcerers too. Make sure you get empower spell, it means you don't need a level 5 reflex spell, or a level 9, if you use fireball and delayed blast. It's useful in other ways too. Not taking sleep is a good idea, consider instead colorspray, it still stuns even at high levels. Take alter self, it's a great utility spell. Don't take polymorph self, take polymorph other and use it on yourself, but make sure your new form can cast spells, or have a friendly dispel around. Take dispel magic as your second 3rd level, fireball first (or iceblast, from Tome and blood). Level 6 is a great level if you get fireball. Get a mithral buckler as soon as you can afford one, and wearing light armor at low levels is not a bad idea either. Shield is a great spell. Disintegrate is a must have. Contigency is a good spell too. Consider the archmage PrC, or the elemental savant, as has been suggested. If you're the only arcane caster, take identify as your 4th or 5th 1st level spell, it will handle most magic items, and it's not worth a higher level slot for a better divination. Clairavoance/clairaudience is a good divination. Chain spell is a pretty nice metamagic too, turns a single target spell into a mass target spell, so you don't need to take the higher level versions. Really great on non offensive spells, like greater magic weapon and haste. Speaking of which, if you plan on aiding the party, take those two spells. With chain spell you can get mass haste and mass greater magic weapon with only one feat. Definately put Con as your second stat, HP are better than ac and ranged to hits. Try and avoid enchantments, you can get charm monster from eyebite. Illusions are a better way to go, some of them effect undead and constructs too. If you go archmage, I suggest spell focus evocation and illusion. Don't get utility spells that you expect any other caster in the party to have, or that you expect to get in the form of magic items. </p><p></p><p>Sorry if I rambled, I don't have my 20 level sorcerer plan handy. I'm going from memory on how I made it and what spells were in it. He was a pretty well made guy if you ask me tho.</p><p></p><p>Eldorian Antar</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Eldorian, post: 772195, member: 10504"] Make a list of attack, defence, and utility. Make sure that the attack spells list contains at least one from each type of save, for every 3 spell levels (ie, don't go more than 3 spell levels without having an attack spell based on each save). Make sure you have a good amount of both phsyical and magical defence spells, ghost form is great for this, 50% miss on both, also incorprabilty and flying utility. Make sure your utility are of wide scope, such as Shades and Shadow Conjuration. Eyebite is a good spell for sorcerers too. Make sure you get empower spell, it means you don't need a level 5 reflex spell, or a level 9, if you use fireball and delayed blast. It's useful in other ways too. Not taking sleep is a good idea, consider instead colorspray, it still stuns even at high levels. Take alter self, it's a great utility spell. Don't take polymorph self, take polymorph other and use it on yourself, but make sure your new form can cast spells, or have a friendly dispel around. Take dispel magic as your second 3rd level, fireball first (or iceblast, from Tome and blood). Level 6 is a great level if you get fireball. Get a mithral buckler as soon as you can afford one, and wearing light armor at low levels is not a bad idea either. Shield is a great spell. Disintegrate is a must have. Contigency is a good spell too. Consider the archmage PrC, or the elemental savant, as has been suggested. If you're the only arcane caster, take identify as your 4th or 5th 1st level spell, it will handle most magic items, and it's not worth a higher level slot for a better divination. Clairavoance/clairaudience is a good divination. Chain spell is a pretty nice metamagic too, turns a single target spell into a mass target spell, so you don't need to take the higher level versions. Really great on non offensive spells, like greater magic weapon and haste. Speaking of which, if you plan on aiding the party, take those two spells. With chain spell you can get mass haste and mass greater magic weapon with only one feat. Definately put Con as your second stat, HP are better than ac and ranged to hits. Try and avoid enchantments, you can get charm monster from eyebite. Illusions are a better way to go, some of them effect undead and constructs too. If you go archmage, I suggest spell focus evocation and illusion. Don't get utility spells that you expect any other caster in the party to have, or that you expect to get in the form of magic items. Sorry if I rambled, I don't have my 20 level sorcerer plan handy. I'm going from memory on how I made it and what spells were in it. He was a pretty well made guy if you ask me tho. Eldorian Antar [/QUOTE]
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