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<blockquote data-quote="Pax" data-source="post: 818665" data-attributes="member: 6875">So if two billion people in China believe a thing, it's right?I guess that makes communism &quot;right&quot; and capitalism &quot;wrong&quot;, hmm?Popularity != correctness.BBB &quot;Freely accepts&quot;, fine.But OUTSIDE the BBB, you still have to buy the pen and ink.&nbsp; The BBB doesn't provide that.And THAT is what you spend the money on -- pens and inks, of sufficient quality and appropriate formula for scribing spells (which means, not NORMAL pens, nor NORMAL ink)....For the record, the example I gave?&nbsp; In fact, that character was posted to the Rogue's Gallery ... along with an equal-level Sorceror.&nbsp; They can be found here: <a href="http://enworld.cyberstreet.com/showthread.php?s=&amp;threadid=46275" target="_blank">Ethen and Koras</a> Here's the spellbook entry for the Wizard:[code][color=white]SPELLBOOK(Total # of pages: 527pp; 100pp per book, leaves 163pp unused)(Total # of spells: 53, plus 25 cantrips = 78)Level 0 (25 spells)&nbsp; all PHB, MoF, and T&amp;B cantripsLevel 1 (9 spells)&nbsp; Negative Energy Ray&nbsp; Spirit Worm&nbsp; Chill Touch&nbsp; Ray of Enfeeblement&nbsp; Magic Missile&nbsp; True Strike&nbsp; Know Protections&nbsp; Alarm&nbsp; ShieldLevel 2 (6 spells)&nbsp; Spectral Hand&nbsp; Death Armor&nbsp; Dessicating Bubble&nbsp; Gedlee's Electric Loop&nbsp; See Invisible&nbsp; Glitterdust&nbsp; Protection from ArrowsLevel 3 (7 spells)&nbsp; Vampiric Touch&nbsp; Blacklight&nbsp; Shatterfloor&nbsp; Sonorous Hum&nbsp; Arcane Sight&nbsp; Reverse ArrowsLevel 4 (5 spells)&nbsp; Enervation&nbsp; Wall of Fire&nbsp; Thunderlance&nbsp; Fireshield&nbsp; Improved BlindsightLevel 5 (7 spells)&nbsp; Spirit Wall&nbsp; Grimwald's Greymantle&nbsp; Bigby's Interposing Hand&nbsp; Wall of Limbs&nbsp; Wall of Stone&nbsp; Permanency&nbsp; Lutzaen's Frequent JauntLevel 6 (5 spells)&nbsp; Circle of Death&nbsp; Acid Storm&nbsp; Cacophonic Shield&nbsp; Biby's Forceful Hand&nbsp; Energy Transformation FieldLevel 7 (5 spells)&nbsp; Finger of Death&nbsp; Zajimarn's Ice Claw Prison&nbsp; Bigby's Grasping Hand&nbsp; Teleport Without Error&nbsp; Mass TeleportLevel 8 (4 spells)&nbsp; Horrid Wilting&nbsp; Chain Contingency&nbsp; Zajimarn's Field of Icy Razors&nbsp; Prismatic WallLevel 9 (5 spells)&nbsp; Energy Drain&nbsp; Zajimarn's Avalanche&nbsp; Wish&nbsp; Mordenkainen's Disjunction&nbsp; Vile Death[/color][/code]Hmm, 78 spells, including cantrips.&nbsp; Versys 43 spells (including cantrips) for a sorceror ... wow, 35 extra spells (16 of them cantrips).Discounting the cantrips, it's 53 to 34.&nbsp; Wow, 19 extra spells (about 50% more than the Sorceror, by the way, and Koras is an Epic wizard with 2.1 million gp to play with, who bought literally every spell that interested his necromancy-specialised little self -- AND got 8 of them FREE, for advancing to Wizard(24) ...!) -- some of which (i.e. Vile Death -- for a Lich, cast on himself, heh) are permanent, and I'd hope to NEVER have to cast them again, but wouldn't want to have to go without, if they ever DID get dispelled.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Pax, post: 818665, member: 6875"] So if two billion people in China believe a thing, it's right? I guess that makes communism "right" and capitalism "wrong", hmm? Popularity != correctness. BBB "Freely accepts", fine. But OUTSIDE the BBB, you still have to buy the pen and ink. The BBB doesn't provide that. And THAT is what you spend the money on -- pens and inks, of sufficient quality and appropriate formula for scribing spells (which means, not NORMAL pens, nor NORMAL ink). ... For the record, the example I gave? In fact, that character was posted to the Rogue's Gallery ... along with an equal-level Sorceror. They can be found here: [URL=http://enworld.cyberstreet.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=46275]Ethen and Koras[/URL] Here's the spellbook entry for the Wizard: [code][color=white]SPELLBOOK (Total # of pages: 527pp; 100pp per book, leaves 163pp unused) (Total # of spells: 53, plus 25 cantrips = 78) Level 0 (25 spells) all PHB, MoF, and T&B cantrips Level 1 (9 spells) Negative Energy Ray Spirit Worm Chill Touch Ray of Enfeeblement Magic Missile True Strike Know Protections Alarm Shield Level 2 (6 spells) Spectral Hand Death Armor Dessicating Bubble Gedlee's Electric Loop See Invisible Glitterdust Protection from Arrows Level 3 (7 spells) Vampiric Touch Blacklight Shatterfloor Sonorous Hum Arcane Sight Reverse Arrows Level 4 (5 spells) Enervation Wall of Fire Thunderlance Fireshield Improved Blindsight Level 5 (7 spells) Spirit Wall Grimwald's Greymantle Bigby's Interposing Hand Wall of Limbs Wall of Stone Permanency Lutzaen's Frequent Jaunt Level 6 (5 spells) Circle of Death Acid Storm Cacophonic Shield Biby's Forceful Hand Energy Transformation Field Level 7 (5 spells) Finger of Death Zajimarn's Ice Claw Prison Bigby's Grasping Hand Teleport Without Error Mass Teleport Level 8 (4 spells) Horrid Wilting Chain Contingency Zajimarn's Field of Icy Razors Prismatic Wall Level 9 (5 spells) Energy Drain Zajimarn's Avalanche Wish Mordenkainen's Disjunction Vile Death[/color][/code] Hmm, 78 spells, including cantrips. Versys 43 spells (including cantrips) for a sorceror ... wow, 35 extra spells (16 of them cantrips). Discounting the cantrips, it's 53 to 34. Wow, 19 extra spells (about 50% more than the Sorceror, by the way, and Koras is an [b]Epic[/b] wizard with 2.1 [b]million[/b] gp to play with, who bought literally [b]every[/b] spell that interested his necromancy-specialised little self -- AND got 8 of them FREE, for advancing to Wizard(24) ...!) -- some of which (i.e. Vile Death -- for a Lich, cast on himself, heh) are permanent, and I'd hope to NEVER have to cast them again, but wouldn't want to have to go without, if they ever DID get dispelled. [/QUOTE]

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