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Sorceror in current edition worse than wizard?
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<blockquote data-quote="Pax" data-source="post: 818690" data-attributes="member: 6875"><p>Yet, here you sit, insisting the Wizard will have every spell under the sun, which makes the wizard <strong>far</strong> superior to the Sorceror ... </p><p></p><p>... yet you balk, when the balancing <strong>cost</strong> of having all those spells is pointed out to you.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Not true anymore.</p><p></p><p>And I daresay, tonight is not the <strong>first</strong> time I've seen objections raised in regards to the whole "Free to scribe" issue, either.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Fine, you can freely scribe scrolls. But "Freely scribe" != "scribe for free" (see Hyp's post above).</p><p></p><p>Besides, scribing costs are described as buying the pens and <strong>inks</strong> needed. You sitll have to pay thos ...and wow, they cost 200gp per level of the spell. How convenient!</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Fine, assume that.</p><p></p><p>The problem is not with how the rules are stated, the problem is <strong>how the stated rules are interpreted</strong></p></blockquote><p>. Don't even TRY and paint this as an issue of Hyp or I wanting to CHANGE the rule.</p><p></p><p>We simply UNDERSTAND it differently than you do.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Exceedingly bad grammar, to imply that "pass freely" refers to the FEE. It means the Trolls choose not to IMPEDE the Ogres (the Ogres may have paid in advance, for example).</p><p></p><p></p><p>From the Mirriam-Webster online:</p><p></p><p>[code][color=white]Main Entry: free·ly </p><p>Pronunciation: 'frE-lE</p><p>Function: adverb</p><p>Date: before 12th century</p><p>: in a free manner: as a : of one's own accord <left home freely></p><p>b : with freedom from external control <a freely elected</p><p>government> c : without restraint or reservation <spent freely on</p><p>clothes> d : without hindrance <a gate swinging freely></p><p><currencies are freely convertible> e : not strictly following a</p><p>model, convention, or rule <freely translated> [/color][/code]</p><p></p><p>Show me where in there it mentions ANY even <strong>remotely</strong> economic, financial, mercantile, or related meaning.</p><p></p><p>Clearly, "freely accepts" means:</p><p></p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"> spells may be scribed without restraint or reservation</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"> spells may be scribed without hindrance</li> </ul><p></p><p>That is, it means one of the above, <strong>if</strong> you can agree we're all speaking English ...</p><p>[/QUOTE]</p>
[QUOTE="Pax, post: 818690, member: 6875"] Yet, here you sit, insisting the Wizard will have every spell under the sun, which makes the wizard [b]far[/b] superior to the Sorceror ... ... yet you balk, when the balancing [b]cost[/b] of having all those spells is pointed out to you. Not true anymore. And I daresay, tonight is not the [b]first[/b] time I've seen objections raised in regards to the whole "Free to scribe" issue, either. Fine, you can freely scribe scrolls. But "Freely scribe" != "scribe for free" (see Hyp's post above). Besides, scribing costs are described as buying the pens and [b]inks[/b] needed. You sitll have to pay thos ...and wow, they cost 200gp per level of the spell. How convenient! Fine, assume that. The problem is not with how the rules are stated, the problem is [b]how the stated rules are interpreted[/b][/quote]. Don't even TRY and paint this as an issue of Hyp or I wanting to CHANGE the rule. We simply UNDERSTAND it differently than you do. Exceedingly bad grammar, to imply that "pass freely" refers to the FEE. It means the Trolls choose not to IMPEDE the Ogres (the Ogres may have paid in advance, for example). From the Mirriam-Webster online: [code][color=white]Main Entry: free·ly Pronunciation: 'frE-lE Function: adverb Date: before 12th century : in a free manner: as a : of one's own accord <left home freely> b : with freedom from external control <a freely elected government> c : without restraint or reservation <spent freely on clothes> d : without hindrance <a gate swinging freely> <currencies are freely convertible> e : not strictly following a model, convention, or rule <freely translated> [/color][/code] Show me where in there it mentions ANY even [b]remotely[/b] economic, financial, mercantile, or related meaning. Clearly, "freely accepts" means: [list] [*] spells may be scribed without restraint or reservation [*] spells may be scribed without hindrance [/list] That is, it means one of the above, [b]if[/b] you can agree we're all speaking English ... [/QUOTE]
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