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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Spatzimaus" data-source="post: 818805" data-attributes="member: 3051">I'm going to have to take issue with the "demolisher, but little else" description of the Sorcerer in the first post, and in some subsequent ones.  I played a Sorcerer for a long time, and they're far more than that.Taking the Shadow magic spells covers a lot of the Sorcerers low-level flexibility problems, but even that's not important; a well-designed Sorcerer has at least one utility spell at every level.  Look at level 3 spells, for example; everyone knows to take some combination of Haste, Fly, Dispel Magic, Fireball, and Lightning Bolt, right?  But, sacrifice one of those for something like Tongues, Protection from Elements, or Clairvoyance, and you'll be far more useful to the party, because these are spells too specific for the other casters to memorize, but that can be really useful in many situations.In fact, my Sorcerer had almost no damage spells, since he was all about nondamaging attack spells and utility, leaving the blasting to the Wizard of the group.  The point is, though, anyone who designs a Sorcerer solely around throwing tons of Fireballs is really underutilizing the main advantage of the Sorcerer, their spellcasting flexibility.And IMC we're with these other guys on the BBB train: it shouldn't make scribing free.  Note the "shouldn't", not "doesn't"; it's a terrible idea for game balance to remove scribing costs, since it removes one of the biggest balance features for a class altogether, but the rules are vague.Now, the problem here is, if you still have to pay per Boccob's page, how many pages does it have?  How many pages does each spell take?  All it says is "45 spells of any level", not "45 pages and 1 spell per page".So, I see three options:A> BBB has 45 pages, and each spell takes 1 pageB> BBB has 100 pages like a standard spellbook, and each spell takes 2 pages, with 10 pages unusable for spells (this one isn't really an interpretation, it's more of "nice house rule I've seen")C> Even with a BBB you still use 2 pages per spell level, the book has an infinite number of pages, but can only hold 45 spells.Either A or B still leave it much cheaper to scribe than a standard spellbook.C is the same cost as usual (you're only saving on convenience, not having to haul around a half-dozen books).  Personally I'd go with B for balance purposes.</blockquote>

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