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Sorceror in current edition worse than wizard?
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<blockquote data-quote="The Souljourner" data-source="post: 818953" data-attributes="member: 1622"><p>Yes yesm ASIDE from the ones a wizard buys! ..or finds in his slain enemies' spellbooks... as long as your DM doesn't cheese you out of spellbooks, you should be able to find pretty much any spell whatsoever. </p><p></p><p>Let's see... assume our wizard wants 5 extra 6th-9th level spells. To scribe, that's 6,000 + 7,000 + 8,000 + 9,000 = 30,000gp. Now, let's assume the DM is a cheesy bastard and you *never* find a spellbook with any of these spells you want, so you have to go buy scrolls. 6th level scrolls are 1650 * 5 = 8250, 7th level scrolls are 2275 * 5 = 11375, 8th are 3,000 * 5 = 15,000, 9th are 3825 * 5 = 19125</p><p></p><p>Add all this up: 83,750gp.</p><p></p><p>At 20th level, that's about 11% of your total wealth. Does anyone REALLY think that the one or maybe two magic items the sorcerer could get for 83k are actually going to make up for missing 20 spells? That's a crapload of stuff the wizard can do that the sorcerer cannot.</p><p></p><p>I don't give a flying fudge about BBB. Any 20th level party has a plethora of portable holes, heward's handy haversacks, and bags of holding, and as I've said, the monetary cost isn't all that prohibitive, even when you buy the scrolls as well.</p><p></p><p>So.. the wizard now has 6 extra spells of each level 6-9, plus 4 more (from levelling up at 19th and 20th) that can be any level. That's a total of 28 more spells known from the most cast levels... total count: Wizard - 40, Sorcerer - 12. And those are just the most expensive levels. </p><p></p><p>You could probably buy and scribe 5 spells from each lower level for another 30,000gp (I'm just guessing, I don't feel like doing the math).</p><p></p><p>The real question is, is it worth being able to cast 7 9th level spells to the wizard's 5, and yet knowing less than a third the number of spells the wizard does? I can't answer that for you, but I can answer it for me. Wizards rock.</p><p></p><p>-The Souljourner</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="The Souljourner, post: 818953, member: 1622"] Yes yesm ASIDE from the ones a wizard buys! ..or finds in his slain enemies' spellbooks... as long as your DM doesn't cheese you out of spellbooks, you should be able to find pretty much any spell whatsoever. Let's see... assume our wizard wants 5 extra 6th-9th level spells. To scribe, that's 6,000 + 7,000 + 8,000 + 9,000 = 30,000gp. Now, let's assume the DM is a cheesy bastard and you *never* find a spellbook with any of these spells you want, so you have to go buy scrolls. 6th level scrolls are 1650 * 5 = 8250, 7th level scrolls are 2275 * 5 = 11375, 8th are 3,000 * 5 = 15,000, 9th are 3825 * 5 = 19125 Add all this up: 83,750gp. At 20th level, that's about 11% of your total wealth. Does anyone REALLY think that the one or maybe two magic items the sorcerer could get for 83k are actually going to make up for missing 20 spells? That's a crapload of stuff the wizard can do that the sorcerer cannot. I don't give a flying fudge about BBB. Any 20th level party has a plethora of portable holes, heward's handy haversacks, and bags of holding, and as I've said, the monetary cost isn't all that prohibitive, even when you buy the scrolls as well. So.. the wizard now has 6 extra spells of each level 6-9, plus 4 more (from levelling up at 19th and 20th) that can be any level. That's a total of 28 more spells known from the most cast levels... total count: Wizard - 40, Sorcerer - 12. And those are just the most expensive levels. You could probably buy and scribe 5 spells from each lower level for another 30,000gp (I'm just guessing, I don't feel like doing the math). The real question is, is it worth being able to cast 7 9th level spells to the wizard's 5, and yet knowing less than a third the number of spells the wizard does? I can't answer that for you, but I can answer it for me. Wizards rock. -The Souljourner [/QUOTE]
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