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Message: <blockquote data-quote="greycastle" data-source="post: 819556" data-attributes="member: 11130">Well, with my human wizard i was actually always considering multiclassing to a Guild Wizard, and i guess since the region i chose is Waterdeep (where she spent her last 3 years), it could actually be done. thanks <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":P" title="Stick out tongue    :P"  data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":P" />Mage of the Arcane order seems a little too overpowered, and i almost feel as if it were cheating/splat...spellpool III at level 7???didn't check the pre-reqs so can't say for certain.Btw, there IS an ECL of +3 for my character (has damage reduction 10/+1), but i must stress again !! WHERE STARTING LEVEL 1, not level 20 !!we simply write up our ultimate goal we wish to acheive (btw, i took DR so most normal weapons can't kill me with my measly 6 hp. We however use a broken down system, which means when they do reach level 20, i will only be 17, but when they reach level 3, i'll be level 2...level 5/level 3, level 6/level 3, and after that it goes on normally...it's to let the outsider not die 100%, because wish and miracle spells are hard to come by...)Elder Basilish, great points, however- Rogue is taken at level one for the INSANE number of skill points (44)- Arcane trickster is a good class....except for the fact i dislike it so much it's not even worth saying...]- and i'm almost positive i'm sticking with wizard.However, it's a very good point about the need for level 8-9 spells (which infact with 15 levels of wizard, you get level 8...but you need 17 to get level 9...). I however don't want to ditch Rogue/Fighter completely...one thing i really wanted was access to level 8 spells, and that power...reason i stopped my original idea of Rogue3/Fighter2/Guild Thief5/Wizard5/GuildWizard5....:SI've considered possibly going Rogue1/Fighter1/Wizard8/GuildWizard10 (because it's better than Rogue2(1)/Fighter1(2)/Wizard8/GW10, same bab, better saves)...but i'm not to sure...we actually have another wizard in the party....a pure human all the way wizard....Anymore advice?</blockquote>

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