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Message: <blockquote data-quote="bellman" data-source="post: 4861613" data-attributes="member: 84452"><p>some thoughts nelliser, one, dispel magic can still be used to counterspell, two, you expect a man with no formal training in magic to learn the complicated procceses behind casting even the simplest spells?(on that note, i should remove knowledge:arcana as a class skill), on the otherhand, losing the ability to counterspell the standard way is big, although if i were to use your method i would have to say they also get a -4 penelty when counterspelling, because sorcerors are not used to the standard method of casting, and would have trouble working with it. would you simply be appeased if i changed the antimagic power to include "you may counterspell as a wizard may"?</p></blockquote><p></p>