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<blockquote data-quote="Gez" data-source="post: 505421" data-attributes="member: 1328">Metamagic just screams &quot;sorcerer&quot; to me. The sorcerer is the one who craft his spells, rather than recite them. He can improvise them on the fly and alter them.Actually, I'd have liked if they gave the sorcerers bonus metamagic feats at level 5, 10, 15 and 20, like the wizard. Also, they should have given them Eschew Material at 1st level, the same way the wizards get Scribe Scroll (but eschew material would have to be a general feat, like the Summon Mastery feat; not a metamagic feat ! Bad idea !). And some more spell-known. Their little number of spell-known make them too limited.Wizards, on the other hand, are the people who learn formulae and repeat them, the more exactly possible, because a slight error can create a disaster. Toying with metamagic is a dangerous proposal for them.In other word, I agree with Ryan Wickett on this point.I also agree metamagic feats are a bit underpowered, frequently. Most of time, a 3rd-level spell is more powerful than a 0-, 1st-, or 2nd-level spell metamagicked to 3rd. An exception is the infamous Persistent Spell used with buffing spells (or with nifty like the Moonblade spell, IIRC it has a fixed range of 0 feet so you can persistent it).I prefer the Lace Spell eldritch feats from Monte Cook's Books of EM, but they have harsh prerequisite for sorcerers (int 17+ ?). A nice effect, smaller in scale than metamagic feats, but without a boring cost associated.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Gez, post: 505421, member: 1328"] Metamagic just screams "sorcerer" to me. The sorcerer is the one who craft his spells, rather than recite them. He can improvise them on the fly and alter them. Actually, I'd have liked if they gave the sorcerers bonus metamagic feats at level 5, 10, 15 and 20, like the wizard. Also, they should have given them Eschew Material at 1st level, the same way the wizards get Scribe Scroll (but eschew material would have to be a general feat, like the Summon Mastery feat; not a metamagic feat ! Bad idea !). And some more spell-known. Their little number of spell-known make them too limited. Wizards, on the other hand, are the people who learn formulae and repeat them, the more exactly possible, because a slight error can create a disaster. Toying with metamagic is a dangerous proposal for them. In other word, I agree with Ryan Wickett on this point. I also agree metamagic feats are a bit underpowered, frequently. Most of time, a 3rd-level spell is more powerful than a 0-, 1st-, or 2nd-level spell metamagicked to 3rd. An exception is the infamous Persistent Spell used with buffing spells (or with nifty like the Moonblade spell, IIRC it has a fixed range of 0 feet so you can persistent it). I prefer the Lace Spell eldritch feats from Monte Cook's Books of EM, but they have harsh prerequisite for sorcerers (int 17+ ?). A nice effect, smaller in scale than metamagic feats, but without a boring cost associated. [/QUOTE]

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