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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Squire James" data-source="post: 416323" data-attributes="member: 548">I think it's nearly impossible for a book with a long lead-up time (and ELH probably had the longest in the industry) to surprise anyone, and you need to surprise a person to induce awe or stimulation.  I call it the Wish-granting Genie rule... if it's hyped too much, a wish-granting genie can't live up to the hype!That being said, I have some players that seem real excited to be passing level 20 and finally being able to get some of those special abilities that have been strictly in Monsterland for the last two years!The Union setting did give me the idea to make the city of Sigil an "epic" city, where the forces that hold the devas and devils apart finally have stats!  Even the Lady of Pain... though learning her race, templates, and class levels is an "uber-dark" as citizens of Sigil would put it (ie:  I won't even post them in the off-chance one of my players is on the board... except to say she's over 50th level).  And all those innocent-looking razorvine-trimming dabuses... they don't LOOK like 30th level monks now do they?</blockquote>