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<blockquote data-quote="Turjan" data-source="post: 2397974" data-attributes="member: 3477">I agree with you (and Ryan Dancey <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)"&nbsp; data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />) in this point. There are questions coming up like that. Rules-light games are nothing for people who always want to 'win' an argument, because they tend to spend too much time with arguing for their 2 point modifier. That's what I meant with 'trust' in my last answer. If you really think the GM is out to get you, you're better off with a rules-heavy game. In the rules-heavy game, you're only screwed if the GM is, indeed, out to get you, but not when you only think he is <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin&nbsp; &nbsp; :D"&nbsp; data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" />.Edit: Just to illustrate my 'illusion' point: In the rules-heavy game, the player will not so much argue about which modifier he is allowed to use, because he can fall back on the rules to decide that. I as a DM can adjust that by applying all those numerous +2 or -2 modifiers to the DC that I have the sole control about. It's even a must, because my group tends to forget many of their positive modifiers, and if I don't want to constantly remind them, I just have to wiggle around on my part.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Turjan, post: 2397974, member: 3477"] I agree with you (and Ryan Dancey ;)) in this point. There are questions coming up like that. Rules-light games are nothing for people who always want to 'win' an argument, because they tend to spend too much time with arguing for their 2 point modifier. That's what I meant with 'trust' in my last answer. If you really think the GM is out to get you, you're better off with a rules-heavy game. In the rules-heavy game, you're only screwed if the GM is, indeed, out to get you, but not when you only think he is :D. Edit: Just to illustrate my 'illusion' point: In the rules-heavy game, the player will not so much argue about which modifier he is allowed to use, because he can fall back on the rules to decide that. I as a DM can adjust that by applying all those numerous +2 or -2 modifiers to the DC that I have the sole control about. It's even a must, because my group tends to forget many of their positive modifiers, and if I don't want to constantly remind them, I just have to wiggle around on my part. [/QUOTE]

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