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<blockquote data-quote="Mythmere1" data-source="post: 2402189" data-attributes="member: 26563">If people are talking about games on a message board, the discussion will pretty much always be focused on a comparison, and D&amp;D is the benchmark.&nbsp; Look at it this way - when people explain why they prefer D&amp;D to a rules-light game, it's done by comparing the rules and stating what to them doesn't work about the rules-light game.&nbsp; To make any sort of explanation about a preference, you've got to make a comparison.&nbsp; Lots of games (both d20 and rules-lite) have players who take an arrogant attitude about the comparison, and that can be a pain - but that's about attitude, not about the reason they prefer the system.&nbsp; The arrogance (you're referring to it as hatred) almost always (I believe) comes after a comparative rules decision, not before.&nbsp; It's common for a convert to be a fanatic.&nbsp; In my case, that's kind of true about C&amp;C - I'm a big fan, although I don't think I feel superior to D&amp;D players at all.&nbsp; My switchover had nothing at all to do with feeling superior - it had to do with the very mundane fact that I wanted a faster speed of play and less prep time.&nbsp; That's hardly &quot;hatred&quot; of D&amp;D, but if someone is thinking the way you propose, it could be seen that way.&nbsp; Just like you can make fortune cookies fun by adding &quot;between the sheets&quot; at the end of each fortune, you're proposing a lens in which you'd add &quot;because d20 sucks&quot; at the end of each post in favor of a rules-lite game - which isn't a valid assumption at all.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Mythmere1, post: 2402189, member: 26563"] If people are talking about games on a message board, the discussion will pretty much always be focused on a comparison, and D&D is the benchmark. Look at it this way - when people explain why they prefer D&D to a rules-light game, it's done by comparing the rules and stating what to them doesn't work about the rules-light game. To make any sort of explanation about a preference, you've got to make a comparison. Lots of games (both d20 and rules-lite) have players who take an arrogant attitude about the comparison, and that can be a pain - but that's about attitude, not about the reason they prefer the system. The arrogance (you're referring to it as hatred) almost always (I believe) comes after a comparative rules decision, not before. It's common for a convert to be a fanatic. In my case, that's kind of true about C&C - I'm a big fan, although I don't think I feel superior to D&D players at all. My switchover had nothing at all to do with feeling superior - it had to do with the very mundane fact that I wanted a faster speed of play and less prep time. That's hardly "hatred" of D&D, but if someone is thinking the way you propose, it could be seen that way. Just like you can make fortune cookies fun by adding "between the sheets" at the end of each fortune, you're proposing a lens in which you'd add "because d20 sucks" at the end of each post in favor of a rules-lite game - which isn't a valid assumption at all. [/QUOTE]

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