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<blockquote data-quote="twjensen" data-source="post: 125365" data-attributes="member: 3124">Mighty broken wizards!Spell casting is worth lots more than the Rogue progression of abilities.&nbsp; Lets look and see what the wizard from the PHB looks like for comparison:BAB - 1 point for crappy progressionVitality - 0 points for D4 hit diceSkill points - 0 for only 2 skill points per levelTypes of skills - 2 for all knowledge and the spell caster skillsSaves - 1 for 1 good, two badWe have a grand tally of 4 points!Letting someone take the wizard spell progression AND have twelve points to spend on the basics leads to a very unbalanced game.&nbsp; It would probably be a good idea to compare all the base classes from the PHB, and whatever points are remaining is what it costs to buy the &quot;special.&quot;&nbsp; Se it costs 8 points to buy the wizard special.&nbsp; Let's see what it costs to buy the rogue special.BAB - 2 points for medium progressionVitality - 1 point for D6Skill points - 3 points for 8 points / levelTypes of Skills - 4 for the best skill list in the gameSaves - 1 point for 1 good, 2 badGrand tally of 11.&nbsp; So it only takes one point to buy the rogue progression of special abilities.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="twjensen, post: 125365, member: 3124"] [b]Mighty broken wizards![/b] Spell casting is worth lots more than the Rogue progression of abilities. Lets look and see what the wizard from the PHB looks like for comparison: BAB - 1 point for crappy progression Vitality - 0 points for D4 hit dice Skill points - 0 for only 2 skill points per level Types of skills - 2 for all knowledge and the spell caster skills Saves - 1 for 1 good, two bad We have a grand tally of 4 points! Letting someone take the wizard spell progression AND have twelve points to spend on the basics leads to a very unbalanced game. It would probably be a good idea to compare all the base classes from the PHB, and whatever points are remaining is what it costs to buy the "special." Se it costs 8 points to buy the wizard special. Let's see what it costs to buy the rogue special. BAB - 2 points for medium progression Vitality - 1 point for D6 Skill points - 3 points for 8 points / level Types of Skills - 4 for the best skill list in the game Saves - 1 point for 1 good, 2 bad Grand tally of 11. So it only takes one point to buy the rogue progression of special abilities. [/QUOTE]

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