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Message: <blockquote data-quote="strongbow" data-source="post: 1041278" data-attributes="member: 2650">Soul Bind offers a Will Save: Negates.  My question is, how do you determine what your Will Save should be?  After all, someone can only cast the spell on you if you are dead.  Categories of Will Save1.  Class/HD Base Will Save2.  Will Save from Wisdom (Compute at Raw, w/ Items, or 0?)3.  Class Ability Bonuses4.  Magic Items that your corpse is wearing.5.  Other BonusesSoul Bind is in direct conflict with the Clone spell.  The Clone spell says that "When the clone is completed, the original's soul enters (the clone) immediately if that creature is already dead."The text of Clone conflicts with Soul Bind in that Soul Bind states,"The soul, once trapped in the gem, cannot be returned through clone, raise dead, etc..." While this spell is not used that often, my DM is starting to whip it out on some NPCs, and will on us if he gets the chance.  Thanks.</blockquote>