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Message: <blockquote data-quote="emoplato" data-source="post: 5738614" data-attributes="member: 97812">Well I was planning on making new melds anyways. Actually the mauling gauntlets are only a Soulborn thing already. I was just sort of demonstrating the problem of the book Soulborn by example, currently a lawful incarnate would get more mileage out of the meld than its original owner. This additional scaling bonuses to melds dependent on Soulborn level I believe makes it so others can't just take it by feat or dip and make it better than the Soulborn actually ever could.Well I am sort of leaning towards the permanent one, yes the other two do have permanent increases that but it is for a different set of abilities. I mean if you look at many of the PrC's with essentia abilities of their own can only invest up to 4, the umbral disciple's concealment can't even hit its own maximum it puts for itself. Also there could be the opposite problem in which this Soulborn could hijack other soulmelds and be able squeeze more out of one for the certain time(vitality belt badness).</blockquote>