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<blockquote data-quote="Moonstone Spider" data-source="post: 3195196" data-attributes="member: 40079"><p>But why are you still comparing Chain Shirt +5 to Full Plate +1?</p><p></p><p>The Fighter wears his Fullplate and has Dex 12. He has an AC of 19 Before Applying Magic. The Soulknife, limited to a chain shirt, has AC 15 unless he's given more Dex for no apparent reason. Let's assume this is around level 4-5 where +1 armor starts showing up, so they both get +1 Armors. The Fighter gets +1 Plate and the Soulknife gets a +1 Chain Shirt. The Soulknife's "free" weapon is also +1 while the fighter has to divert resources to his +1 Shortsword, so the Soulknife has 2000GP more resources to spend on defense. The Fullplate also costs 1400 GP more than the Chain Shirt so the Soulknife has a total of 3400 Extra GP to spend. If he puts everything into defense he can afford the extra 3000 to buy a +2 Chain Shirt and have 400 left over for. . . well you can't buy any more defense at that price so it won't matter.</p><p></p><p>Total AC:</p><p>Fighter: 20</p><p>Soulknife: 17</p><p></p><p>Unless you're using Cheating Dice or simply infinite resources, putting resources into Dex WILL limit your ability to put resources into Str and Con. You simply can't put the points (at chargen) or money (Items of +ability Score) there if they're being used elsewhere instead.</p><p></p><p>Except that a lot of the argument so far has been that the Soulknife doesn't <em>have</em> to buy weapons, allowing the soulknife to beef up on armor. Now you're not only got the Soulknife suffering from MAD to support melee and ranged combat, you've also got the Soulknife having to buy full equipment so he won't even get the +1 to his Armor his extra resources would otherwise afford.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Moonstone Spider, post: 3195196, member: 40079"] But why are you still comparing Chain Shirt +5 to Full Plate +1? The Fighter wears his Fullplate and has Dex 12. He has an AC of 19 Before Applying Magic. The Soulknife, limited to a chain shirt, has AC 15 unless he's given more Dex for no apparent reason. Let's assume this is around level 4-5 where +1 armor starts showing up, so they both get +1 Armors. The Fighter gets +1 Plate and the Soulknife gets a +1 Chain Shirt. The Soulknife's "free" weapon is also +1 while the fighter has to divert resources to his +1 Shortsword, so the Soulknife has 2000GP more resources to spend on defense. The Fullplate also costs 1400 GP more than the Chain Shirt so the Soulknife has a total of 3400 Extra GP to spend. If he puts everything into defense he can afford the extra 3000 to buy a +2 Chain Shirt and have 400 left over for. . . well you can't buy any more defense at that price so it won't matter. Total AC: Fighter: 20 Soulknife: 17 Unless you're using Cheating Dice or simply infinite resources, putting resources into Dex WILL limit your ability to put resources into Str and Con. You simply can't put the points (at chargen) or money (Items of +ability Score) there if they're being used elsewhere instead. Except that a lot of the argument so far has been that the Soulknife doesn't [i]have[/i] to buy weapons, allowing the soulknife to beef up on armor. Now you're not only got the Soulknife suffering from MAD to support melee and ranged combat, you've also got the Soulknife having to buy full equipment so he won't even get the +1 to his Armor his extra resources would otherwise afford. [/QUOTE]
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