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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Nonlethal Force" data-source="post: 3196223" data-attributes="member: 35788">Sorry, I wasn't aware that I was.  Not to be snippy, but more so that the relevent text is in the same post, here's the quote from my earlier post:In the paragraph I talk about the fighter's DEX bonus at +1 for the full plate.  I talk about the +8 armor bonus from the full plate.  That makes a total of +9.  Best case scenario (non-epic) is a +5 magical bonus, making it +14.  I don't say anything in there about full plate armor +1.In the paragraph I also talk about the soulknife's DEX bonus at +4, which I still think most soulknives can make without cutting into their funds - especially as the game level goes up.  Certainly not at first level, of course.  Then I talk about the armor bonus from a chain shirt at +4.  Then I talk about the best case scenario of magical bonus at +5, making the total a +13.  Thus ... if you look at my numbers you can see that I'm comparing full plate +5 and chain shirt +5!True.  But then again this can be said about a bunch of classes.  You can't play an effective paladin on most fighter stats.  You can't play a ranger on some fighter rolls, and those that you can the ranger isn't as optimized as the fighter can be.  You can't really even play a barbarian on some rolls that make a fighter playable.Not all classes are comparable to the fighter.  Not to mention that melee combat is the fighter's primary domain.  Assuming that any character can come in and do an equitable job as a fighter in the fighting domain means that they wll need help from something.  A cleric can do as good or better job fighting than a fighter, but they'll need to rely on their spells (and thus WIS) to accomplish it.  A Favored Soul can also accomplish the same success as a fighter in melee but they need to depend upon their spells (CHA) to do it.  The Barbarian needs to respect DEX on account of their armor llimitations.  The ranger needs to respect DEX and possibly WIS if they want to use their access to spells effectively.  The paladin needs to respect both WIS and CHA to truly be effective as the fighter.My point is that saying the Soulknife has to respect STR, DEX, and CON really puts them in the same boat as the barbarian, cleric, Favored SOul, Ranger, and not as limited as the paladin.  Not all classes are equal.  I okay with that.  If you want to play the most effective melee combatant that you can, play a fighter! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>

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