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<blockquote data-quote="aramis erak" data-source="post: 8644870" data-attributes="member: 6779310"><p>The OSR sites I've seen tend to not consider CE to be OSR... nor even CT (Classic Traveller) as OS... but (as a couple regulars here show) outside the hard core OSR crowd, many of the non-OSR crowd and somme of OSR crowd do consider CT, CE, RQ 1E, T&T to be OS/OSR.</p><p></p><p>Someone wrote a diatribe about the OSR being summed up as something akin to "Roll some stats, then roll 1d20 for high to succeed, modified by the most appropriate stat and maybe a level modifier"...</p><p>and claiming I'd not read it when I pointed out the variety of non-D&D old school games. </p><p></p><p>To be blunt, the board in question rejects pretty much everything other than pseudoclones and retroclones of D&D+S1+S2+S3 or BX as "Not old school" and very much "Not OSR"... Not even T&T, which dates to 1975...</p><p></p><p>It's not atypical of the blogs and boards I've seen which strongly ID as OSR... hell, Starships and Spacemen wasn't "Old School" enough for the new owners... despite being late 1970's... so they wrenched it into a (IMO, poorly designed) system they'd done to fill the same space as Gamma World.... Brief splash. IMO, people are far better off buying the original in PDF or POD, and getting an actual Old School game.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="aramis erak, post: 8644870, member: 6779310"] The OSR sites I've seen tend to not consider CE to be OSR... nor even CT (Classic Traveller) as OS... but (as a couple regulars here show) outside the hard core OSR crowd, many of the non-OSR crowd and somme of OSR crowd do consider CT, CE, RQ 1E, T&T to be OS/OSR. Someone wrote a diatribe about the OSR being summed up as something akin to "Roll some stats, then roll 1d20 for high to succeed, modified by the most appropriate stat and maybe a level modifier"... and claiming I'd not read it when I pointed out the variety of non-D&D old school games. To be blunt, the board in question rejects pretty much everything other than pseudoclones and retroclones of D&D+S1+S2+S3 or BX as "Not old school" and very much "Not OSR"... Not even T&T, which dates to 1975... It's not atypical of the blogs and boards I've seen which strongly ID as OSR... hell, Starships and Spacemen wasn't "Old School" enough for the new owners... despite being late 1970's... so they wrenched it into a (IMO, poorly designed) system they'd done to fill the same space as Gamma World.... Brief splash. IMO, people are far better off buying the original in PDF or POD, and getting an actual Old School game. [/QUOTE]
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