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<blockquote data-quote="Lanefan" data-source="post: 8986491" data-attributes="member: 29398">I think both of the items you use as examples are of a significantly different pay grade than a simple Wand of Secret Door Detection. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />I mean, hell, one is the single most powerful item on its planet and the other is one of the six most powerful items in the whole universe; thus yes, a mere mortal trying to attune to one of them is probably in for a challenge and had better be mighty resilient going in.To some extent I agree with you.&nbsp; 4e and 5e both made magic item attunement and-or identification far too easy IMO; but the one consistent thing throughout all the editions (and through most fiction I can think of quickly) is that for relatively basic items (of which the WoSDD would be one) once you know what they do, that's it - you know what they do.Which means, the owner/user of a WoSDD is highly likely to know - or easily be able to learn - its general degree of reliability; and then be able to reasonably expect that to reflect in the fiction going forward.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Lanefan, post: 8986491, member: 29398"] I think both of the items you use as examples are of a [I]significantly[/I] different pay grade than a simple Wand of Secret Door Detection. :) I mean, hell, one is the single most powerful item on its planet and the other is one of the six most powerful items in the whole universe; thus yes, a mere mortal trying to attune to one of them is probably in for a challenge and had better be mighty resilient going in. To some extent I agree with you. 4e and 5e both made magic item attunement and-or identification far too easy IMO; but the one consistent thing throughout all the editions (and through most fiction I can think of quickly) is that for relatively basic items (of which the WoSDD would be one) once you know what they do, that's it - you know what they do. Which means, the owner/user of a WoSDD is highly likely to know - or easily be able to learn - its general degree of reliability; and then be able to reasonably expect that to reflect in the fiction going forward. [/QUOTE]

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