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<blockquote data-quote="Vraille Darkfang" data-source="post: 1548505" data-attributes="member: 16989"><p>Well, this sure was a shock.</p><p></p><p>I'm DM'ing a 3.5 game (overall I like it better, barely, than 3.o). My party is nearly 20th level. But, we just had the first character come in who actually used a mount on a regular basis (a human paladin). So I decided to whip out my books & read up on mounted combat. It was then I realized where 3.5 really screws things up. Specifically when a medium character is riding a large mount.</p><p></p><p>In 3.0 who had a space/facing combo system where large (long) mounts were 2 5' squares long. Now in 3.5 all creatures are based on squares. A medium character takes up 1 5' square & a large creature takes up 4 squares. (see below)</p><p></p><p>12</p><p>34</p><p></p><p>If 1 & 2 are the mounts front end & 3 & 4 the mounts back end; exactly where does the 1 square medium rider go? Square 3? Square 4? the quarter sections of squares 1,2,3,4 that would make up a 5' square in the middle of the other 5' squares? If I'm situated on Square 3 and a goblin is attaking me in the square next to 4; does it need a Reach weapon to hit me? Do I need a reach weapon to attack him?</p><p></p><p>Also if a what to hitch up 2 horses in tandem to draw a chariot (think Ben-Hur), does it have to be 20' wide? After all each mount needs a 10' wide space. Would this mean a road has to be 40' wide to allow 2 wagons to pass side by side (thus the Texas highway reference).</p><p></p><p>Does anyone know of rules clarification on this issue? Did I miss something in the core books?</p><p></p><p>Vraille Darkfang</p><p></p><p>"Are you sure you want to desecrate the alter to the storm god in that manner?"</p><p>"Yep, my dwarven barbarian's positive. He just drank about 4 gallons of ale and has to do something."</p><p>"OK. Take 40 points of damage as lightning spews forth from the alter along a very specfic trajectory. He He He"</p><p></p><p>Ture story.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Vraille Darkfang, post: 1548505, member: 16989"] Well, this sure was a shock. I'm DM'ing a 3.5 game (overall I like it better, barely, than 3.o). My party is nearly 20th level. But, we just had the first character come in who actually used a mount on a regular basis (a human paladin). So I decided to whip out my books & read up on mounted combat. It was then I realized where 3.5 really screws things up. Specifically when a medium character is riding a large mount. In 3.0 who had a space/facing combo system where large (long) mounts were 2 5' squares long. Now in 3.5 all creatures are based on squares. A medium character takes up 1 5' square & a large creature takes up 4 squares. (see below) 12 34 If 1 & 2 are the mounts front end & 3 & 4 the mounts back end; exactly where does the 1 square medium rider go? Square 3? Square 4? the quarter sections of squares 1,2,3,4 that would make up a 5' square in the middle of the other 5' squares? If I'm situated on Square 3 and a goblin is attaking me in the square next to 4; does it need a Reach weapon to hit me? Do I need a reach weapon to attack him? Also if a what to hitch up 2 horses in tandem to draw a chariot (think Ben-Hur), does it have to be 20' wide? After all each mount needs a 10' wide space. Would this mean a road has to be 40' wide to allow 2 wagons to pass side by side (thus the Texas highway reference). Does anyone know of rules clarification on this issue? Did I miss something in the core books? Vraille Darkfang "Are you sure you want to desecrate the alter to the storm god in that manner?" "Yep, my dwarven barbarian's positive. He just drank about 4 gallons of ale and has to do something." "OK. Take 40 points of damage as lightning spews forth from the alter along a very specfic trajectory. He He He" Ture story. [/QUOTE]
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