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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Tzeentch" data-source="post: 3388985" data-attributes="member: 13222">In a D&D magical world the Spartans would probably adjust accordingly. Or not, it's worth pointing out that although "Sparta" existed well into the Roman era it was relegated to a circus-sideshow position where tourists would stop by to oggle at the brutal training while sipping on wine and honeycomb.They were certainly Lawful Evil in D&D terms simply because the game rules are very clear that some things are simply EVIL and there is zero getting around it.Adaptions for Magical Sparta-- The idea of using nonhumans for Helots is a great idea, and adds a new layer of moral dilemma for players if it is the humans that are more monstrous then the "monsters."-- In a magical world the Spartans may very well be quite willing to not just expose unsuitable children, but use them to power sorceries or other affairs that would benefit the State. The Spartans were not alone in having rather strict definitions as to who was even considered worthy of being treated as a human, much less humanely.-- Every Spartan is a Fighter. Spellcasters can multiclass if they have the talent.-- In a magical world they probably wouldn't use traditional hoplite tactics since it would be suicide. Or if they did, they would have feats that could be used to advantage - like the Legion ability the combat demons have in D&D (group saves). Normal shield-to-shield tactics fail the instant someone uses D&D technology (trebuchets and other medieval artillery) or spells (fireball). If anyone could pull off modern-day mobile warfare in D&D it would be the Spartans I would think (even if their strategies would be a bit inflexible due to their overall lack of personal initiative).-- Liberally use the Book of Nine Sword abilities. Read up on some of the insane defensive stance feats and abilities (heck, the Dungeonscape replacement bull rush abilities can get movie-style crazy as well).* Crusader and Warblades both make excellent replacement core classes for a pseudo-Spartan campaign (Book of Nine Swords).</blockquote>

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