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<blockquote data-quote="Elder-Basilisk" data-source="post: 1236939" data-attributes="member: 3146"><p>While I agree that rolling 3x 5d6 for each stat would be a poor way of simulating Spartan characteristics, your assertion that the brightest and wisest will most likely be dead seems to assume that poor health and weakness correllate to wisdom and intelligence. I don't believe that to be the case. AFAIK, a strong, tough individual is neither more nor less likely to be smart than a weak and scrawny individual. Thus eliminating the weak and unhealthy would not necessarily kill off any more smart people than it would dumb ones. Although the overall population would be smaller, I don't see it as any dumber or more foolish than it would otherwise be.</p><p></p><p>If one wishes to bring the law of averages and the mathematical distribution of D&D stats into this, there will be no fewer characters with 13 cha and 18 strength than there are with 13 cha and 3 strength. The distribution of one stat has no effect on the distribution of the others so having a high or a low score in one stat neither makes other stats more likely to be high or more likely to be low.</p><p></p><p>It is true that the odds of a character having every stat above 13 are low, however for a character who already has 13 in one stat, the odds that the other will be 13+ are identical. It's like flipping coins. The odds that a coin will land "heads" eight consecutive times is less than 1%. However, given seven consecutive "heads", the odds that the next flip will result in heads is still 50%.</p><p></p><p>(And in any event, it's likely that the Spartans also killed those they regarded as feebleminded so any eugenics enthusiasts might be justified in giving them a bonus to mental stats as well).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Elder-Basilisk, post: 1236939, member: 3146"] While I agree that rolling 3x 5d6 for each stat would be a poor way of simulating Spartan characteristics, your assertion that the brightest and wisest will most likely be dead seems to assume that poor health and weakness correllate to wisdom and intelligence. I don't believe that to be the case. AFAIK, a strong, tough individual is neither more nor less likely to be smart than a weak and scrawny individual. Thus eliminating the weak and unhealthy would not necessarily kill off any more smart people than it would dumb ones. Although the overall population would be smaller, I don't see it as any dumber or more foolish than it would otherwise be. If one wishes to bring the law of averages and the mathematical distribution of D&D stats into this, there will be no fewer characters with 13 cha and 18 strength than there are with 13 cha and 3 strength. The distribution of one stat has no effect on the distribution of the others so having a high or a low score in one stat neither makes other stats more likely to be high or more likely to be low. It is true that the odds of a character having every stat above 13 are low, however for a character who already has 13 in one stat, the odds that the other will be 13+ are identical. It's like flipping coins. The odds that a coin will land "heads" eight consecutive times is less than 1%. However, given seven consecutive "heads", the odds that the next flip will result in heads is still 50%. (And in any event, it's likely that the Spartans also killed those they regarded as feebleminded so any eugenics enthusiasts might be justified in giving them a bonus to mental stats as well). [/QUOTE]
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