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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Felon" data-source="post: 437903" data-attributes="member: 8158">Come to think of it, in Monte Cook's Banewarrens [SPOILER ALERT] there's a mind flayer/ogre mage monster team as well, so you could use them as recurring villains. The Banewarrens is for levels 6-10, so you could probably run it consecutively with SiD.Agreed. As inexcusably awful as the D&D movie was, if you think about it, it's a pretty big challenge to make a movie that would portray D&D accurately without looking ridiculous in its current OTT approach to fantasy. Not even so much for the message-bearing familiars and golem bodyguards--the audience might be able to enjoy that as the Tatooine canteen from Star Wars on a larger scale--but suspension-of-disbelief goes bye-bye when they cut to a scene of a D&D version of a hospus where priests of Pelor raise the dead (for a modest fee, of course <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> )Ultimately, I hope D&D evolves into more of a meta-system, with just as much material floating around for a traditional heroic fantasy campaign as there is for Monte Cook's "spellpunk" flavor of fantasy. After all, if we have a D20 Modern system coming, why not a D20 Fantasy? Your group gets the level of fantasy that they want.There are quite a few alternate systems out there right now that could serve the cause (alternate combat systems that use VP/WP, alternate magic systems where spells are powerful but  come at a cost, etc) it's just a matter of seeing which material emerges as the predominant "core" system. I actually had some hope that Sovereign Stone d20 would do the trick, but sadly that's not the case.</blockquote>

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