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<blockquote data-quote="Mallus" data-source="post: 5425248" data-attributes="member: 3887"><p>Not exactly. Assigning HP values to sailing ships is still kinda/sorta useful. It not hard to imagine PC heroes damaging even a large vessel made of wood, cloth, and rope with their swords and spells. Ditto objects like doors and iron bars.</p><p></p><p>Now solid rock walls are another matter. Simply giving them HP values is just asking for trouble. </p><p></p><p></p><p>Realistically speaking, yes. But remember, we're talking about a 'realism' rooted in certain kinds of fiction. Stories which routinely feature heroic protagonists slaying mighty dragons and giants. </p><p></p><p>Note these stories <em>don't</em> often feature peasant work-gangs destroying ships with knives on sticks or knocking through dungeons walls with their bare hands.</p><p></p><p>Hey, I just thought up a simple rule: Heroic Tier characters cannot damage large objects/structures with their powers and hand-held weapons. Paragon and Epic Tier characters <em>can</em>. PCs start off as more-or-less realistic, but graduate to being folkloric heroes a la John Henry. Pretty elegant, eh?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mallus, post: 5425248, member: 3887"] Not exactly. Assigning HP values to sailing ships is still kinda/sorta useful. It not hard to imagine PC heroes damaging even a large vessel made of wood, cloth, and rope with their swords and spells. Ditto objects like doors and iron bars. Now solid rock walls are another matter. Simply giving them HP values is just asking for trouble. Realistically speaking, yes. But remember, we're talking about a 'realism' rooted in certain kinds of fiction. Stories which routinely feature heroic protagonists slaying mighty dragons and giants. Note these stories [i]don't[/i] often feature peasant work-gangs destroying ships with knives on sticks or knocking through dungeons walls with their bare hands. Hey, I just thought up a simple rule: Heroic Tier characters cannot damage large objects/structures with their powers and hand-held weapons. Paragon and Epic Tier characters [i]can[/i]. PCs start off as more-or-less realistic, but graduate to being folkloric heroes a la John Henry. Pretty elegant, eh? [/QUOTE]
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