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<blockquote data-quote="Dausuul" data-source="post: 5425319" data-attributes="member: 58197">This still means that no kind of door or bar will ever stop any party, no matter how low level or poorly equipped, from getting anywhere. A large adamantine door has 200 hit points according to the rules; a typical 1st-level party could batter it down in maybe half a minute. This seems deeply wrong to me. A medium-sized stone door would almost certainly fall in a single round.All right, I'll concede that point. But the distinction gets a little arbitrary. If we can hack through a solid stone door, players are likely to ask, why can we not hack through a stone wall of similar thickness?If you feel it's important that your PCs be able to emulate Hercules (John Henry had mining tools, not a sword). If I were going to do such a thing, I'd constrain it to Epic tier. Mostly, though, I'd just go with something like the hardness system I outlined above, or simply say &quot;You can't break down doors with swords&quot; and leave it there.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Dausuul, post: 5425319, member: 58197"] This still means that no kind of door or bar will ever stop any party, no matter how low level or poorly equipped, from getting anywhere. A large adamantine door has 200 hit points according to the rules; a typical 1st-level party could batter it down in maybe half a minute. This seems deeply wrong to me. A medium-sized stone door would almost certainly fall in a single round. All right, I'll concede that point. But the distinction gets a little arbitrary. If we can hack through a solid stone door, players are likely to ask, why can we not hack through a stone wall of similar thickness? If you feel it's important that your PCs be able to emulate Hercules (John Henry had mining tools, not a sword). If I were going to do such a thing, I'd constrain it to Epic tier. Mostly, though, I'd just go with something like the hardness system I outlined above, or simply say "You can't break down doors with swords" and leave it there. [/QUOTE]

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