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<blockquote data-quote="Cleon" data-source="post: 5999686" data-attributes="member: 57383">I'd better change it to &quot;any humanoid&quot; then.So, shall I modify it to say that if the base creature has a Swim speed it can use that when in &quot;dire seawolf&quot; form?&nbsp;Who says I want them to make untrained skill checks unless they're extraordinary individuals à la Siegfried? <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f60e.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":cool:" title="Cool&nbsp; &nbsp; :cool:"&nbsp; data-smilie="6"data-shortname=":cool:" />As for the &quot;have a bunch of nutsos helping you turn into a magical homicidal maniac with Aid Another actions&quot;. Why do you think Loup du Noir's are normally created in &quot;groups&quot; or &quot;gangs&quot;?Anyhow, I'd consider lowering the DC to 20, but certainly wouldn't countenance 15.We could add a Will save as an alternative to the skill checks.Speaking of skill checks, what did you think of the proposal to add Handle Animal?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Cleon, post: 5999686, member: 57383"] I'd better change it to "any humanoid" then. So, shall I modify it to say that if the base creature has a Swim speed it can use that when in "dire seawolf" form? Who says I want them to make untrained skill checks unless they're extraordinary individuals à la Siegfried? :cool: As for the "have a bunch of nutsos helping you turn into a magical homicidal maniac with Aid Another actions". Why do you think Loup du Noir's are normally created in "groups" or "gangs"? Anyhow, I'd consider lowering the DC to 20, but certainly wouldn't countenance 15. We could add a Will save as an alternative to the skill checks. Speaking of skill checks, what did you think of the proposal to add Handle Animal? [/QUOTE]

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